There is a lot of talk about how Janissaries are not done well and nobody will use them once they realize they are not part of the meta. I want to extend this conversation to other dead units.
Camel Riders: I watch a lot of pro games and nobody ever makes Camel Riders. I saw it happen once and the caster was laughing and saying it was probably a miss click. He was laughing because making a Camel Rider is actually so outside of the meta that it’s funny. I think they either need a traditional buff, or nerf Camel Support for Camel Archers and buff it for the Riders. This leaves Abbasids with only one unique unit in practice. Since they have no landmarks it makes the civ kinda bland.
War Elephants: Same thing. Everyone is making Tower Elephants. BeastyQT had an idea to give them splash damage and change a couple other things, so I know there is a conversation there.
Mangudai: This one annoys me because, coming from AOE 2, the Mangudai’s ability to shoot while moving makes it the coolest unit in the game.They are also the iconic unit of the Mongolians yet I never see them in high level games. Mongols are a tower rush and infantry civ sometimes which I find less exciting.
Pagoda: You would be forgiven for having no idea what a Pagoda is. Like who uses it?
Grenadiers: I would prefer them being too weak to them being too strong, but I sometimes forget they are part of the game after the last nerf.
Stone Wall Towers: I never see them and given that they are banned in tournaments, they need a fix up.
Siege Towers: Don’t buff them too much because then people will stop making stone walls, but try to think of something. I would make it such that stone walls can be destroyed by enemy infantry only if they are on top of it. This would give people a reason to use siege towers. Maybe make it so if your infantry is on the opponent wall and your mouse is over the middle of the wall, it tells your infantry to move to that position, but hovering over the edge of the wall changes it to an attack wall command.
Landmarks: I won’t list them, but many landmarks are never built. You can main a civ and not know the name of half of their landmarks.
Mongol moving buildings: This happens sometimes. BeastyQT had an idea to each Ger an extra 5% drop off resources for every 1000 resources it has collected to encourage people to move the old ones instead of building new ones.
Units I don’t see often but do still see sometimes are Horse Archers and Landschneckts (edit: and ribauldequins).
bc it also pulls the jans fans. Soon it’ll turn into a janissary topic.
