Boyars instead of Paladin as an Eastern Europe regional unit?

It appears to be a type of throwing spear. Could be the first skirmisher unique unit (excluding Imperial Skirmisher, of course). An odd choice for a civ that currently has pretty rubbish skirmishers.

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Did you forget about the Genitour?

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Thats true.The unit should have some special abilities like a charge attack and no minimum range or else its just another skirmisher.

Both genitor and imp skirmisher are none castle uu’s so I guess he means a castle skirmisher uu.

Its surprising that we still dont have a 2 handed swordsman and halberdier(hack at the enemy than stab) type uu’s.

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Poles and Lithuanians have unique Hussar “Winged Hussar”

Whoops. Yes I did.

That is what I meant really.

How? 3/2 is just Teutons Knight (not to be confused with Teutonic Knight). 4 or 5 MA doesn’t help when HP is low. And their speed is already slower than Knight anyway.

That’s right. I didn’t calculate anything other than Knight vs new Boyar. Maybe I should have calculated their performance against Camel and spears.

High MA in castle Age is just Teutons. Although after Husbandry, Boyar moves a bit faster than Teutons Knight. But Teutons also have conversion resistance.

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What would be the castle UU for Slavs instead?

That he doesn’t want to discuss.

Yes, StarGazer, you are correct, I do not want to discuss that, because
 (you haven’t really mentioned why), so please, since you know so many things about me, why do I not whant to discuss that?

I can see your flawless argument that making a topic where I suggest Boyars instead of Paladin must indefinitely mean that I have to, no, that I’m required by God, to be discussing what will be the new Slav Unique Unit and how will it be balanced if Boyar is made Regional, otherwise the suggestion for Boyars instead of Paladin is invalid. I know it doesn’t make any sense, but this is exactly what your line of reasoning looks like.

Have you considered that I might want to leave the balancing to the experts? Or that suggesting Boyars instead of Paladin as an Eastern Europe regional unit doesn’t automatically mean I have to suggest a replacement?

While for some reason you are offended that I didn’t mention a replacement, you didn’t mention a replacement either, so wtf is that?

The replacement could be:

SPOILER

something else

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Maybe an infantry UU as Slavs is an Infantry civ. Or Cossack - a light cavalry UU.

Aoe4 has Streltsy that can be the UU as well.

If going for an interesting design can make the Streltsy pack and unpack like a terb.unpacked attack with the axe and walk around,packed cant move but can use a hand gun to fire.

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A combination of trebuchet and Immortal? That’s very complex imho.

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  • I would add that the Warrior Priest should become regional, instead of mule

Absolutely yes

Something will be found

A quick design.

Cossack - Light cavalry with attack bonus vs Cavalry Archer.
Cost - 65 food, 10 gold
TT - 12 seconds
HP - 50, 70
Armor - 0/3
Attack - 8, 9
Attack Bonus - +4, +6 vs Cavalry Archer
ROF - 1.90
Speed - 1.50
LOS - 5, 6
Upgrade Cost - 750 food, 650 gold
Upgrade Time - 60 seconds