Huns, byzantines and cumans didn’t count
Wow, i thought you were very knowledgeable on your history, guess i shouldn’t judge a book by the cover.
Teutons represent north Germanic tribes. Teutons don’t represent Bohemia or whatever else is in the HRE
Interesting to note how the “Turks” umbrella was broken down little by little as well.
No, otherwise the Teutons campaign would not be Barbarossa.
Teutons, in AoE2, just represent the entire Regnum Teutonicorum, which is ALL of the German peoples.
He is born within a then germanic part of the HRE, which makes him fine to represent teutons in the campaign (literally the first level is uniting the germanic)
I don’t understand why this is so hard to accept for so many people. “Teuton” is literally the latin translation of “German”.
Yep. And the Czechs weren’t germanic
Huns and Cumans are from the steppes of central asia, they may have dominated part of europe… but Spain or Portugal are not african because they dominated part of Africa.
Byzantines are Romans and Greeks, both are the BASE of western culture
If you take a map all these factions are in eastern europe.
Being in East Europe doesn’t make them Eastern European (as Gaturro said). And what year would this map be?
Look at any map from 500 to 1500.country borders are not set in stone unless you live on an island.
Does it really matter where they originate? If so there should only be one type of peoples originating from africa.
Originating from Middle East*.
Cumans are Asiatic, as are the rest
In his 1871 book The Descent of Man, Darwin speculated that it was “probable” that Africa was the cradle of humans because our two closest living relatives—chimpanzees and gorillas—live there
If others are asian slavs cover all of eastern europe.
Imagine believing in Evolution.

If others are asian slavs cover all of eastern europe.
Can you restate this using proper grammar so I can actually know what you are trying to say?

Being in East Europe doesn’t make them Eastern European
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If you are considering cumans bulgarians as asians then all the eastern european nations comes under the slavic umbrella civi.
When you have slavs as a civilization Its hard to have poles serbs as they too are slavic.
Was not hard to change a name.
Also Turks have Cumans and Tatars, which are both Turkic peoples
I never said Bulgarians are Asian, but Cumans are.
Most of Eastern Europe is under a too broad umbrella, which is why we need more civs.
curious which principality is more important than Bohemia in AoE2 timeframe

Also Turks have Cumans and Tatars, which are both Turkic peoples
I agree fully,these are bad civilization choices to add but what to do they are already in game.
I would not call them bad, just strange not to rename Turks to ‘Ottomans’.
This shows they can do the same with Slavs