Chinese civ doesnt make any sense

My view point is very clear about the AOE 4 based the current information.

  1. Yuan Dynasty should be removed from Chinese Dynasty system, it is mongol not china. So the Chinese Dynasty system still remain 3 dynasty, Tang, Song and Ming.

  2. All the special units, including repeating crossbow, fire lance cavalry and Hwacha/火厢车 will remain to be Chinese units. After all, it were Chinese who invented these genius inventions such as repeating triggers, gunpowder and arrow with rockets. Mongol temporarily conquered China does not mean they have the qualification to own these copyright.

It is a fair solution I think.

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everyone knows that Mongols invent nothing!

I mean there’s the Mongolian reneisance which saw advances in medicine, math, astronomy etc and even greater leaps in humanities like art, sculpture, etc.
Turko-Mongols also invented the stirrup centuries before the Mongol empire. While they didn’t invent as much as say China considering their much smaller population and need for pastoralism preventing similar levels urbanization and food surpluses needed to support equivalent levels of intelectuals etc that they did pretty decently.

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Yes, I agree with your solution. The devs should implement this solution.

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這一看就是阿三,又在意淫。以為全天下都跟印度一樣在英國人的協助下才第一次完成了統一。這個阿三還在別的帖子裡也上竄下跳,說元朝不是中國的,就一鋼精

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this is a troll
阿三748!

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Had it not been for Soviet military intervention, Mongolia would not have existed and would have been a part of China. In history, Mongolia was the hometown of other game nationalities and the territory controlled by ancient China. Now it can be the territory of the Mongols because other ancient nomadic nationalities were defeated by China and drove westward. Now, the Mongolian in Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region is also one of the 56 ethnic groups in China. The population is more than that of independent Mongolia. Which is the real Mongolia? You say yuan is not Chinese history. In the eyes of the Chinese, it is Mongolia that forcibly takes yuan history as its historical source after independence. The Mongolian history in China is yuan history, not pure Mongolian history as Mongolia thinks. Because it is not under the intervention of the Soviet Union, Mongolia will not exist, Mongolia is still China’s territory, so whose history is Mongolia? Many Chinese believe that with Mongolia’s strength, it is impossible to be independent from China. After independence, Mongolia should not think that the Yuan Dynasty is not Chinese history. When the Mongols were strong, their history was only more than 100 years. There is no need for the Mongolians to think that the Mongols are invincible. Compared with China’s 5000 years of history, it is too short. It is really strong if they can exist for a long time.

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In fact, the dynasty was composed of four Khanate States, namely wokuotai khanate, Chagatai Khanate, qincha Khanate and xuliewu Khanate. Yier Khanate was the Abbas Dynasty in 1253 when xuliewu led the Mongolian army to the West. After several years of hard fighting, xuliewu won the war and finally established his own Khanate in West Asia. Xuliewu is the grandson of Genghis Khan, so since the establishment of the khanate, he has been closely connected with the central government of the Yuan Dynasty. Although the geographical location of irkhanate is far away from the Yuan Dynasty, it is the most loyal among the four great Khanate. Xuliewu died of illness in 1266, and his son abaha was elected as the new Khan. However, abaha had only the Regent and did not ascend the throne first. Some ministers worried that the delay would lead to other changes, so they advised abaha to ascend the throne immediately. However, abaha said: “to ascend the throne formally, it must be appointed by Kublai Khan.”. Because of the long way to go, Kublai Khan sent the certificate of appointment to Ilkhanate many years later, and abaha formally ascended to the throne to take charge of the state affairs when he saw the certificate of appointment. Kublai Khan not only issued the imperial edict, but also issued the Fang seal with the Chinese character “the treasure of assisting the country and pacifying the people” as the king seal of abaha, which can be confirmed from the existing imperial edicts of abaha. In the middle of the 20th century, a European scholar found a relics of the Yuan Dynasty in Iran. According to the research, this is a letter written by aruhun, the fourth monarch of the state of Yierhan to the king of France Philip IV. it is the royal seal given by Kublai to the state of Yierhan. It is clear that the kingdom of Yierhan has used the Chinese characters Wang printed by Kublai to print his own national books. However According to other records, the monarch of the state of irkhan has always called himself the governor of Persia.8d5494eef01f3a29c4aa716f92e0ad365d607c79

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Every region had its own governor because Chinggis Khan believed “the other side of the river, must be governed by the other side of the river”. The meaning is the region needs to have its origin. The Mongols never forced their culture to be followed by the others because usually, they had better things so the Mongols simply adopted and governed just like the previous governors with some differences.

Who cares about that minor detail … for god sake, we play the game because it’s fun.

You mean just blood, age games have never had gore.

It turned out to be an animation when the unit died. That illustrated blood on the corpse and then turns to a skeleton then absorbed by the nature.

I don’t really understand why they can’t just add that, no need to add Total War combat animations with buckets of blood everywhere just because a few people think that’s what age should look like.

It existed in Original AOE1,2,3 but then they censored it in DEs.

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The funny thing is, the original Aoe2 was rating 10+, DE is rating T, lol

Because then they can’t promote the game in China

OP has no understanding of Chinese history.

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  1. Dynasty =/= Civilization.
    Angevin doesn’t represent whole English history
    Carolingian doesn’t represent whole French history
    And Tang/Song/Ming doesn’t represent whole Chinese history

  2. As many has already pointed out, OP has poor knowledge of Chinese history.
    During the whole Chinese imperial age (220BC-1911AD), China was a unified country/state in the vast majority of time with short periods of division. Chinese is actually one of the most continuous and homogeneous civilizations.

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I mean that OP has poor knowledge of Chinese history. You’re mistaken.

I stand by my comment. This person is a proponent of the northeast project.

Chinese Dynasties are different countries with different cultures and languages and ethnicity.
And calling the Chinese is the same state is the same as calling the roman empire was a unified country/state from 753 BC to 1806 AD.

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