Civ concept: Poles/Polish

and was released in november of 2019.

LOTW came out at the end of January.

thought so - just wanted to clarify - i still don’t know if i think its a good thing - especially when i don’t see the stats on your unique unit.

this is probably acceptable to return to them if you’re not giving them castle age barding.

Yes exactly, after they add Burgundians (Franks) and Sicilinas (Italians) and the upcoming one is (Duchy) this just became silly and ridiculous

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So?! 2019 NOV and 2021 Jan almost 1 year with just 2 months in addition we got 6 civs

the point is about HONESTY. a lot of uninformed people read these forums - don’t want bad information being spread.

Since when they nerfed the Portuguese? I always see them get buffs 11

3 out of 6 were pointless: Cumans, Sicilians and Burgundians.

Europe is well covered so nothing is left but small duchies. Other parts of the world is still uncovered.

I thought it was clear as I said similar to Champion. For a rough estimate:

Two Handed Axeman:
HP 60
Armor: 0/1
Attack 10 (armor class 31) (+1 over LS)
Speed 0.9 to 1
Attack rate: 2.2

Elite Two Handed Axeman:
HP 70 to 80
Armor: 1/1 or 2/1
Attack 14 (Armor class 31) (+1 over Champion)
Speed 0.9 to 1
Attack rate: 2.2

I don’t know how long you’re playing Age of Empires 2 but after the launch of African Kingdoms, their Imp UT Arquebuse and the Feitoria got nerfed to death.

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yes but similar doesn’t mean the same. which is why i brought it up - if you had say, given them 0/2 armor, then with the armor upgrades they become 3/6 which is a bit problematic to deal with. especially for a unit that ignores armor like the leitis, to have 6 PA in castle age would give it no real weaknesses.

11 oh come on maaan, it is already small gap

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Feitoria now is very deadly in closed maps and many people thinks it OP now. In general Portuguese now are fine imo especially with their 20% gold discount which is really good discount

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Didn’t check their winrate for some time but it seems you’re right:

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Two Handed Axeman (Feudal): 50 F / 40 G
HP 45 => 60 in castle
Armor: 0/1
Attack 8 (armor class 31) (+2 over maa) ( => 11 in castle)
Speed 1 => 1.1 in castle
Attack rate: 2.5
Shares the attack bonusses with the militia line.

This would be a nice addition in feudal, as you could shred walls with this bad boys.
Then they don’t need any eco bonus or so, as the axeman would be bonus enough.

Back on topic, I don’t like the Polish design here, no eco bonus whatsoever. They’d be dead on open maps.

I am glad that you joined and contributed positively!

I had no ideas for that. So I did not write it. The list is incomplete. There is no UT2!

he already covered that.

They’ve only added Kingdoms/Empires so far mate. The naming is stupid saying ‘Dawn of Dukes’ but many kingdoms/empires started as Duchies. Burgundians and Sicilians weere both kingdoms for centuries

Kingdom of Arles and Kingdom of Sicily if you need to check :smiley:
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i mean one hand you’re absolutely correct. on the other hand i believe their are other areas they could have gone for civs over Europe.

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Yeah many great empires start with a “Village” or “Duchy” but ended to be a great empires with great area and effects around the world, but some civs start with a “village/duchy” and ended to be a “village/duchy” without that big effect or impact in histroy. Keep adding any “Village” or “Duchy” that was in the medieval era to the game will just make it Age of Potato

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