Often people say we already have enough European civilizations.
But i don’t think they’re finished. And i think that the HRE is slowly being reformed and so are the Slavs. And ofcourse we need more african and american civs.
I’m looking at a map of 900 and 1200 in a history book of mine.
First i think the Teutons should be renamed to the Holy Roman Empire.
The Teutons were a crusader order who are known for forming Prussia in the Baltic states. And don’t represent the Holy Roman Empire.
It says northern italy (genua, florence and rome) belong to the Holy Roman Empire. Sicily is its own kingdom, and Venice is independent. Bohemia and Burgundia actually belong to the Holy Roman Empire. Burgundia and the Provence were protectorates of the HRE and were formed into a new state Burgundia within the HRE.
So i would expect to come: Venice, Denmark and Utrecht.
Venice was independent and competed with the Byzantine Empire and with Siciliy. And became a famous seafaring citystate.
I can see a split coming for the Vikings maybe because there already was Denmark, Norway and Sweden at the time. We kinda miss the Finns there who were invaded by Sweden at the time and were bordered by Novgorod.
So the Burgundians, The Bohemians, The Italians were already reforms of The Teutons. All the border civs have their own forms now. Except, in my opinion the Dutch.
Which come in the form of Utrecht which was the biggest power at the time. A citystate ruled by a Bishop which ruled most of the inlands of lower germania. Which in the Netherlands we today know as Gelderland, Overijssel, Drenthe and Groningen. These events happened around the timeframe of AoE2 1220. Only in the late medieval times take Flanders. But then we are talking about 1500-1600. So Flemish revolution should actually be considered out of the picture. Because in that time frame you would have to redo HRE into many duchies and small city states. Thus a general faction should do better.
So i think for now the HRE is reformed except the Teutons themselves should be renamed to HRE.
The map also shows the Rus and all of its tiny states and the republic of Novgorod (duchies of Vladimir, Smolensk, Polotsk, Turov, Chernigov, Murom, Perejaslav, Kiev, Volhynië and Galicia) and next to them are the Cumans, Bulgars, Magyars, Lithuanians and Poles.
What misses here are Georgia and the Alans.
And we miss the Balkans: Croatia, Servs, Moravians. But the map shows them to be part of the Byzantine Empire.
Outside of Europe:
In Africa we already have Mali and Ethiopia. We could also add the Kanem-Bornu Empire (Hausa), and the Sudanese with the Makkura empire and the Alwa/Alodia kingdom.
In south america i’m not knowledgeable about the variety on the natives along the pacific, pardon me for that. But i do imagine there could be a Northern Andes group, a Amazone group.
For central america we already have the Mayans and the Aztecs. Maybe Mixtec, Zapotec, Tlaxcalans, Tarascan, Metztitlan. For the Caribean and northeastern southamerica i would go for the general tribe name Arawak bit that would be a mixture.
For northern america (further north than mexico) we currently have none. I’m not really knowledegable about this region either. But i imagine the advanced desert cultures Anasazi, Mogollon, Hohokam and to add one more civilization for the eastern cultures like the Haudenosaunee. And the Lakota for the center/north. But i imagine the last two would make for very different gameplay.
