Control groups bugged/can't add units/buildings to group

:arrow_forward: GAME INFORMATION

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  • GAME BUILD #: Update 81058
  • GAME PLATFORM: Steam / Microsoft Store
  • OPERATING SYSTEM: Windows 10

:arrow_forward: ISSUE EXPERIENCED

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Did they make any changes to control groups?

Say I have my archery ranges on “5”. I build two more and I want to put them in group 5. Before, I would just select the new ranges, then hold shift+5, then ctrl+5 and I had all my ranges in the same group.

Now, this does not work for me. I only get the 2 new ranges in the group, not the old one. The same goes for units.

The way I have to do it now is to go around the map while holding shift and mouse click all the archery ranges. Also, the old way of using “ctrl+a” five times to browse them quickly only adds one of them to the group. So, because of my old habit, I ungroup my units/ranges each time I add a new one.

I have not looked deep into this, and I don’t remember how the hotkey screen looked before for groups. But I see I now have “append group 5” to shift+5. Is this new or has it always been like this?

:arrow_forward: FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

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  • 100% of the time / matches I play (ALWAYS)

:arrow_forward: REPRODUCTION STEPS

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Here’s the steps to reproduce the issue:

  1. I don’t know, turn back old group mechanics

:arrow_forward: EXPECTED RESULT

:point_down: What was SUPPOSED to happen if the bug you encountered were not present?

I should be able to add units/buildings to group with shift+ctrl like I always did

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Same issue happens with me!

Hey @Idolzz
Do you have Shift Group Appending enabled? You can find it under Options-Game-Controls
Thanks for the report!

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No I did not, I turned it on now and it works like before, thank you :smiley:

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I’m having the same issue on Xbox but can’t find the setting to change this.

the same thing happens to me(in xbox) since the last update and it becomes a bit annoying to play with the keyboard shortcuts

Hi, this bug also effects xbox. X is supposed to append the selection to a control group but currently it just replaces the control group. I don’t this Shift Group Appending option on xbox.

Thanks

We’re tracking this issue on Xbox as well :slight_smile:

I can confirm this is indeed an issue on PC as well…

:arrow_forward: GAME INFORMATION

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  • GAME BUILD #: Version 101.102.15522.0 (#81058)
  • GAME PLATFORM: Steam
  • OPERATING SYSTEM: Windows 11

:arrow_forward: ISSUE EXPERIENCED

:point_down: DESCRIBE THE ISSUE IN DETAIL (below). LIMIT TO ONE BUG PER THREAD.

The classic / legacy behavior for using the Shift key along with Control Groups is no longer functional after this update. My settings remain the same as before the patch.

What happens is that when you assign a Control Group to a set of units (say cavalry, we’ll assign # 6) and also to another set of units (say archers, we’ll assign # 7), then you cannot select both groups with the Shift key. So if I hold “6” + “Shift” + “7” it will still only show cavalry (group # 6) selected and act as if you didn’t press any other keys. Before the patch using Shift would allow you to simply select both groups together and then issue a command etc. (and I just confirmed this definite change of behavior with the help of my other computer in offline mode and so without Update 81058 applied yet, but with the exact same settings and hotkeys; prior to update = normal Shift key behavior).

Please note that I am NOT looking to have “Shift Group Appending” behavior where it automatically merges AND reassigns one Control Group number, but rather the legacy feature of adding to your current unit selection with their respective Control Group number assignments still intact.

Selection Modifier Hotkeys = ON

Shift Group Appending = OFF

Troubleshooting already done:

  • I verified the integrity of game files via Steam.
  • I went into each of the in-game settings tabs and selected “Reset to defaults” and confirmed.
  • I then added and selected a new hotkey profile, and under the Reset to Default section I selected “Classic Hotkeys” and then chose “Reset All”. (My custom “Group Commands” hotkeys were all based on the Classic Hotkey defaults anyway, with very few changes to that which mostly related to control group #20 hotkey preferences).
  • I also made sure all mods were off and restarted the game.

My tests since the update have consistently continued to reveal the same problem with control group and shift key behavior.

Additional observations made during testing:

  • As mentioned before, the Shift key acts as if you did nothing when you try to select two assigned control groups, example: cavalry (control group #1) and archers (control group #2)… if you press “1” + “Shift” + “2” it will simply keep units from control group # 1 selected and do nothing more. The only exception to this is if I turn on “Shift Group Appending”, which does still allow you to select both groups in this way BUT will also forcibly assign them the same number.
  • I did notice that buildings are doing the same thing as units, example: say I have two Barracks and I assign them each as control group 3 and 4, if I press “3” + “Shift” + “4” then it will only select the Barracks assigned number 3 and nothing more (Shift Group Appending is still an exception here too though).
  • I also noticed that I can use “Shift” + “,(comma)” and it will still successfully select all military units, so at least that is normal.
  • Otherwise I can only get two or more groups to be selected at the same time by holding Shift and then manually clicking on the actual units on the screen, so if both groups are not in your view at the time then that becomes a real pain to try to chase down and select / double-click the other group or building to simply issue a command.

:arrow_forward: FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

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  • 100% of the time / matches I play (ALWAYS)

:arrow_forward: REPRODUCTION STEPS

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Use a hotkey profile with the “Classic Hotkeys default” set and then test this behavior with and without Update 81058 applied. Assign units and buildings different control group numbers and then try to select those numbers (groups) together using the keyboard and the Shift key. Also note the differences between the legacy behavior and newer appending behavior by toggling “Shift Group Appending” on and off.

:arrow_forward: EXPECTED RESULT

:point_down: What was SUPPOSED to happen if the bug you encountered were not present?

The legacy Shift key behavior described above that has been in place for over twenty years.

Indeed, this issue happens on PC as well, the team is aware of it. Thanks.

Thanks! Hopefully all the specific details and the steps to reproduce the problem were helpful.