All of these point towards the same period. It’s probably going to add to Chronicles section. There are enough evidences already.
Cysion’s comments in the Town Center podcast disprove that. He said the new civs would be Chinese-adjacent, not part of China proper. Three Kingdoms civs would be actually Chinese.
Listen carefully (I have timestamped it), he said Chinese civ will remain in base game, they are not going to change and they will have neighbouring civs.
What he meant was Chinese are not going to get changed another civ like Indians got changed into Hindustanis. Thus it is not a split.
But he never said anything that new civs cannot be added to Chronicles.
Oh, I misread the title. I thought you were saying Three Kingdoms civs were being added to the base game.
Disregard.
He doesn’t need to because sneak peek already said so. 5 brand new civs for ranked play. Chronicles civs are not available for ranked.
Why would they tease chronicles content in their blog post when they explicitly said the new dlc would include “5 new civs, all available in ranked multiplayer”?
None of the screenshots show anything Chronicles related.
AoE2 East Asian architecture, AoE2 units in the techtree and so on.
Unless this DLC will have 8 civilisations but that would be crazy.
It’s possible though the screenshot with Zhuge Liang also depicts medieval villagers from the base game instead of the Chronicles ones.
It is very possibly a three kingdoms era civ but I think it will be for the base game with the medieval buildings/units.
All 3 civs are absolutely busted compared to vanilla, so I don’t think so
I don’t think so.
Chronicles civs are balanced pretty differently, especially on water.
Getting a free warship in Dark Age is absolutely OP against civs that can’t even train any.
Spartans for example have absolutely no answer to Counter Infantry units like the Jaguar Warrior.
There is significant rework needed to make those civs balanced. Maybe they plan on doing so at some point but I think it would be very unpopular to have ancient civs in ranked.
It’s more likely that Chronicles will get its own ranked queue once there are enough civilisations.
Only 2 are recognised with confidence.
God, I hope not. I’m really hoping the five new civs are all proper AoE2 civs. Chronicles civs are poorly designed, unbalanced, and contribute little to the game as a whole. I’d rather have Chronicles DLCs to be kept separate, not a mixed AoE2/Chronicles DLC.
Exactly what I think.
Maybe someone only wants to buy the AoE2 content or only wants the Chronicles content.
They should be sold separately so consumers can choose. This is better than making them into a bundle.
I signed up because more people don’t know than I thought.
I think we’re talking about “Three Kings” because of “Zhuge Liang.”
According to history, “Zhuge Liang” was helped by “Cuanman” during the “Southern Campaign.”
Then “Cuanman” was able to dominate the south of China, and later split into “Bai people” and “Yi people.”
That’s right. “Bai” is the nation that founded “Dali Kingdom.”
In other words, the screenshot of “Zhuge Liang” is “Campaign,” which refers to “Zhuge Liang’s Southern Campaign,” which is played as “Bai.”
also In “THE Furious Wild,” the DLC of the “Total War: Three Kings” game, “Zhuge Liang’s Southern Campaign” comes out, where “Fire Archers” is a soldier from “Nanman.”
So isn’t “Fire Archers” in the update description “campaign unit”?
If there was going to be a three kingdoms campaign, would three dedicated civs REALLY be needed?, or could you just re-purpose fitting existing civilizations that could cover more than a temporary war-faction (like using Bai, Chinese and Jurchen to represent each Kingdom or something like that).
They wouldn’t have confirmed a new 4th-century played as CHINESE scenario if there would be a more specific civ to cover it.
Really sound… weird if we have a Three Kingdoms campaign for original AOE, especially when build a Three Kingdom campaign with using Bai, Chinese and Jurchen to represent each Kingdom or something similar.
Those new civilizations deserve a more worthy campaign than stuffing them into a Three Kingdoms campaign.
Tangut, Jurchen have their great period in XII - XIII century, when Bai have Nanzhao Kingdom which have war with Tang dynasty. It is more worthy.
Or each stay Chinese but modifying the civ (as was done for the Japanese in the V&V Sengoku scenario) to get influence from neighbouring civs : the North Chinese kingdom gets something from the Jurchens, things like that.
Chronicles is being developed by a different team, and their next plans are for Alexander the Great.
Also all the Three Kingdoms units were used continuously up until the Tang or even the Song.
Moreover, the civ are always ethnic groups or cultures, so it would be weird to break that pattern and have a dynastic or warlord name as a civilization when there could be a culture more fitting to cover them.
Same reason I don’t believe the Turks, Persians and Saracens are ever going going break up by dynasty, only by adding subcultures if anything.
