I’m not a treaty player
Supremacy late game and treaty is different. In supremacy you have to fight all the time, use influence whenever it is available, finally it comes to late game. You don’t have a large stock pile of influence like when you begin the fight in treaty. You don’t have chance to set up your eco like treaty. In treaty you can comfortably use 20 fattened cows, 30 goats, full university and palace, then influence is not a problem. But I am not talking about treaty
If you read all my posts, I am not a treaty player and I will not touch treaty ever. Why do you just assume every post is talking about treaty as if that is the only game mode existing? When I say late game, I’m not talking about treaty. Im talking about normal late game.
You may be high elo but Hausa is hurt badly by Corsair nerf it is a fact though no matter what elo you at
i didn’t read the thread but i can say fulani in sup is the best archer in the game with an insane animation, all you need is to kite properly and faster than regular skirm with their 1.5 ROF
Yea that’s just wrong like Kevin just pointed out haha. Fulani work well anywhere and the corsairs are not good anyway, no cards regardless of their pop. So instead of going to forums and complaining about things, spend your time trying to understand them first instead of claiming something is a fact that you once again simply dont understand.
Winners search for solutions, in your case for how to make fulanis work or figure out why they maybe didnt before. Losers search for excuses and claim the unit sucks, needs a buff and bla bla bla.
For 1v1 the change to corsair marksman really does suck because it was great to age up with morocco and train them from the tower in age 2. They were strong units and it was nice to get such a good skirm so early.
I wouldn’t be opposed to having a card for African civs that reduced the pop of outlaws like we see for Europeans. Would be slower than the previous strategy but still makes it a possible option?
Im pointing out the cosair nerf is hurting hausa in this post. I did not say i lose every game witb hausa. I still win about 50% of the time. However you are speaking like a joke with no logic.
no i don’t want to see african outlaws become again the main comp for african civ, its a bad design, its like watching french playing renegado pistoleros as main comp, it doesn’t make any sense, i want to see african civ playing with native unit and their own unit instead of that really
Yeah. Not only 2 pop, they also cost mostly coin now, so becoming more expensive, also moves slower. Triple nerf here, on a unit that was not broken at all in the first place. I don’t know why.
I agree, sorry I should of made it more clear. I want outlaw to be a meme or small component and not over shadow the main African units. Used just for fun
So kevin before this patch, do you prefer using cosair marksman or fulani archer when playing Hausa? If you ever play them. At least from what i see most of the pros use marksman. They are easier to micro and kite. Now the nerf means everyone has to use fulani, no more choices.
i always played fulani but people played marksman because of that outlaws combat card and its too difficult to macro apparently, but fulani dude its a crazy unit and im not exagerating ( in sup no idea in treaty ) xD
The loser should look at his rec game and understand where he went wrong and not make the same mistake 2 times but unfortunately here is what you said 
iirc the reason people used them in the tourney where it was pretty visible was that they shadow tech after the age 3 vet tech so you can save on upgrade cost going Industrial into mercs and natives which also share the combat card with them.
its a specific build with was pretty fun but not something that neccesarily should be dominant lategame.
its basically the same idea as italy FI that was so dominant in the tourney.
there are more meme builds going age 2 morroco and sniping enemy vils cause of the bonus damage.
fulani has always been viable as a unit and on some maps borderline op cause of archer techs and combined with griots for support
I also think fulani are not harder to micro but its a different rythm that a lot of players might not recognise since its the only instant fire 1.5 rof unit in the game iirc so it might take getting use to. They basically shred heavy cav if you micro them cause the cavs get confused by all the moving around
I think you have agood point. 1.5 rof is a different rythm. That’s what i feel when i hit and run with keshik. But let’s be honest, fulani don’t shred heavy cav, heavy cav shred them😅
you need numbers but they perform much better then skirms since the base dmg is higher. their higher speed also means they can kite easier and since they deal small amounts of damage rapidly, they overkill less so they are more efficient.
not to mention you can add griots for suport to make them even faster and delay cav attack animation and reduce their dmg, in some cases cav can’t even snare fulani griot mass
So how can Hausa mass fulani with this shitty eco?
age up berber and making berber vills