DLC focussed on Campaigns coming soon!

[thieftdp8498]

@Tyranno13

Visually they are the best part of the game. Some of the levels have lots of little attention to details that make the map really feel like you’re in that part of the world

I think you’d love a game called thief the dark project, or thieftdp for short. its not historical game tho

[PhillySouljah]

Thief: The Dark Project is a great game!

[MatM1996]

@TwerDefender

I think this is a really good move. no more bad civ additions. just adding campaigns also shouldnt introduce new bugs

@SMUM15236

Steamdb files added 3 sub files. So maybe there are 3 campaigns. I’ll go with Vikings, Turks and Chinese.

Of course, it could also be new campaigns for Return of Rome…

@CanineCrown7153

Monkey paw closes a finger. It’s a Return of Rome Roman campaign

Sure, I hope they port the Roman campaigns from Rise of Rome into Return of Rome…

@Nebular905647

However, I have a guess. If they call it “campaign-focused expansion”, then they are only planning to add campaigns, not civilizations. What civilizations do we have without campaigns? That’s right - China, Japan, Korea. They also said about February 23rd as the New Year, and this day falls on one of the days of the CHINESE New Year.

That’s true, maybe it’s a Chinese New Year dlc with 3 campaigns for China, Japan and Korea… it would be The Asian Dynasties 2.0 xd…

@Nebular905647

Well, if they said that it is campaign focused and no civs, then nobody gonna be split this time. In addition, you need to understand that DLC about China should take into account the interests of the Chinese market. And they REALLY don’t like it when they are told that their empire is not united. They don’t even have time zones. If I was making something about China and for China and didn’t want to piss off the local fan base, I wouldn’t split up China.

@MUTYLATOR5553

That would make sense that the next DLC with campaigns alone would focus on the Far East - since the division of the Chinese umbrella civ threatens to be banned on the Chinese market, i.e. the one that could have the greatest interest in this topic.

Yes, for me they are never going to divide China because it would generate a lot of resentment…

@TwerDefender

they might just extend the romans DLC with a free campaign, they are adding some of the aoe1 campaigns anyway, right?

@Darkillermon

Or they could lock some content to owning DLC A and B, like they did to AOE3, which owning both USA and Mexico gives the player an extra Historical Battle

Exactly…

@Mahazona

Eg better byzantine one or proper slavs/rus campaign.

Belisarius and Ivan III would be fine…

@twiglet2018

Hopefully, someday we will get a true Celtic campaign outside of the tutorial one.

On Xbox they united the first 4 missions into 1 and thus the campaign is more interesting as there are only 4 missions…

@BassDiamond4661

Chinese campaign: 3 kingdoms, Mongol invasion

3 kingdoms is AoE 1 and the Mongol invasion we already saw in Genghis Khan, perhaps it was Taizong or the rise of the Ming dynasty (between Lake Poyang and Le Loi)…

@Quasibrodo

Something much later than El Cid.

Elisabeth the Catholic…

@KarstHillFort77

I don’t see them introduced in a completely irrelevant DLC like one about SE Asia or Oceania, since historically (in the period covered by AoE 2) they had no connection whatsoever with those regions.

Nor AoE 3 because both states were isolationist…

@Darkness01101

Campaigns never did much for me, in terms of gameplay enjoyment level, unfortunately. It’s hard to get excited for anything campaign-related.

For me yes, I am a big fan of the campaigns (since the AoE 2 multiplayer seems simple to me)…

@Darkness01101

If you primarily play campaigns, what is it about them that you enjoy so much? I want to enjoy them, but I think they’ve historically been too much ‘on rails’ for my tastes

They are incredibles, you start out in misery and end up feeling like the emperor of the world when you finish them…besides, no one rejects a good story…for some reason the best campaign in the entire saga is the AoM campaign (the AoE 3 ones are very good, but they go a little outside of historicity to do something more historical fiction and AoE 4 are History Channel type documentaries xd)

@SirWiedreich

I’m in a similar boat. In theory I like the idea of campaigns because they can provide continuity, story, and exciting features beyond what you can experience in MP or a random map.

Exactly, by the way it helps you to get to know the game’s civs in more depth (in AoM and AoEO it helps you a lot since they are very asymmetrical; in AoE 3 and 4 it doesn’t help you much because the campaigns use exclusive civs)…

@Velk413

For me its all about the story you’re playing out. I enjoy the story that you’re playing through, and the way things are triggered in my opinion feels natural for what the enemies are supposed to be doing within the confines of that story (ie if an enemy is besieging an allied castle, and your job is to break the siege, the enemy’s focus is going to be on keeping the siege, and defending itself against your attempts to break it; they aren’t going to abandon their primary focus (the castle they’re besieging) to all-in you)

Exactly…the multiplayer always starts the same and ends the same: with all the players killing each other to win; however, in the campaigns it varies depending on how you start the missions and how everything is dynamic throughout the scenario…

@Darkness01101

For me, gameplay is very important. And if a game relies too heavily on story, where I am mostly along for the ride or the gameplay and my freedoms as a player feel too noticeably restricted, then it’s not usually something I’m drawn to.

Yes, rest assured… the AoE 1 and AoE 2 campaigns allow you a lot of freedom to resolve the scenarios (within what is possible of course)… from AoM onwards, it is more restrictive in that aspect (going from A to B following a corridor and not going too far outside the margins)…

@Darkness01101

This is why I’ve longed for DLC or more updates that benefit the base game itself, like weather and time of day options, added visual effects touches, cosmetic changes that are not civ-specific, more map aesthetics/additions, maybe some audio updates/additions, and so on. Things I could see while playing my unranked Skirmish matches. And, likely, could benefit all players.

That would be very good too…

@Darkness01101

Yes, once while dabbling in making random map scripts for AoE2:HD, I was shocked to see how many cool things I could add to maps that I had never seen when playing the random maps given to us by devs.

Yes, the scenario editors of the saga have a lot of things to experiment with… in the AoE 3 DE forum, for example, you have screenshot contests using the game’s scenario editor and they are true masterpieces…

@Darkness01101

In the meantime, I will try a newer campaign or two to see what extra graphical goodness exists these days

The ones from DotD are really creamy, the ones from DoI are exotic and the ones from RoR are epic and much better than the ones from AoE 1 for scandal…

@SirWiedreich

The floor is certainly lower on custom scenarios, and probably the average as well. But I also vet them and only play a handful of those that come highly recommended. Some of them are indeed limited or overstructured, but as far as I can tell, even that seems to be a design meta that grew out of and is still present in the official campaigns, (especially spanning the AoK-AK) era where you’re limited to Castle Age, 75 pop, and the same old units, sometimes minus whichever one would be most helpful, say rams or a UU.

Of course, the ones that suffer the most from this are the AoK and TC campaigns, which were quite simple compared to the newer ones…

[CoffeeKitten305]

@MatM1996

On Xbox they united the first 4 missions into 1 and thus the campaign is more interesting as there are only 4 missions…

It’s not too much interesting. I would go on to say it is just amusing that first four scenarios are combined into one. All others remain the same.

[MatM1996]

Yes, but at least they make it look like a campaign like the others in the game…