The special ability of the hoplites is that they get additional armor if they’re in a mass (+1 melee armor, and an additional +1 pierce armor once they’re Elite). I don’t know the specific numbers required. There are also some UTs that affect them specifically.
I know that but there are Infantry UUs inAoE2 that have much better stats even when you consider the +1/+1 armour.
Got his priorities straight 11
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| Hoplite | Elite Hoplite | |
|---|---|---|
| Cost | 55F 30G | 55F 30G |
| HP | 55 | 70 |
| Armour | 2/1 | 4/3 |
| Armour bonus | 0/+1 | +1/+1 |
| Attack | 10 | 12 |
| vs. Buildings | 4 | 2 |
| Speed | 0.9 | 0.9 |
They start of pretty weak tbh. Why would you build them over a Long Swordsman?
Lower HP, +1 attack, same armour (+1 melee armour in formation), but much higher price.
In Imperial Age they get the same HP as a Champion while having +2/+2 more armour, so that’s significantly better.
Still kinda feels like a worse version of the Serjeant. They only have +1 more melee armour in formation and +1 attack but -15 HP in the Elite version.
| War Chariot | Elite War Chariot | |
|---|---|---|
| Cost | 65W 65G | 65W 65G |
| HP | 100 | 140 |
| Armour | 1/0 | 2/1 |
| Attack | 8 | 10 |
| vs. Infantry | 5 | 8 |
| Speed | 1.35 | 1.35 |
Similar to the Cataphract. They do AoE damage instead of trample damage though.
A little cheaper then the Cataphract (-5 Food, -10 Gold) but a little less HP (-10 HP for both Elite and none Elite), lower armour for none Elite (-1/-1), lower attack (-1 and -2 Elite) lower bonus damage (-4) but the most significant difference is that they have 0 Cavalry Armour so they take full bonus damage from everything.
If Spartans and Athenians are both Infantry focused then this unit is probably actually pretty good. Not very useful against most AoE2 civs though.
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Yes, need rebuild hoplite and Special. Remake the hippeus they are higher level of Hoplite, don’t be the second sejua 
. Chariot too, too expensive and too weak
Chariots do AoE damage, that is really powerful. Being able to damage multiple units is practically like having double the damage.
Elite Hoplites seem find and Spartans already get them in Classical Age. 4 Melee armour is not bad.
Hippeus are different compared to Hoplites. It would be boring if they were the same but better.
They have a lot of pierce armour instead of melee armour.
We need to see how strong they will be in the actual game.
Spartans have 2 unique technologies that makes their units stronger. One gives Hoplites more attack in large formations (up to +3) and one makes Infantry take -33% bonus damage.
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Number might change before the DLC is released.
Elite Hoplites do less bonus damage vs. Buildings than normal Hoplites.
This looks like a mistake to me.
I’m not sure if chariot get trample damage from start it good, but need a technology unique ít worse. And hippeus I hate they are Sejuany and don’t get bonus from hoplite, they are hoplite but higher level, they are Royal guard. What thing make Microsoft think royal guard weaker than standard soldier. Icon on shields too. Ares patron for Sparta not for Microsoft. Huge wrong from Microsoft when they let Royal guard of Sparta like a weakness, now and for long time after I still write about it. Not have hippeus just have royal guard, and hippeus change to cavalry of Spartan it will more OK.
Chariots always have AoE damage, not trample damage (not the same).
40% of the damage goes to other units too, even multiple at once.
So they will be good against Infantry formations.
Hoplites indeed look kinda weak without bonuses.
Spartan Polemarchs are powerful units though.
They make allied units attack 15% faster and then either make them move 15% or regenerate HP.
The Polemarch can even dodge projectiles.
With that unit the Spartan army will be very strong.
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Với những gì tôi thấy hiện tại trên Youtube tôi thật sự thất vọng. Nhưng nếu đúng như những gì bạn nói tôi vẫn sẽ đợi và theo dõi tiếp các phát triển từ Microsoft, nhưng với đơn vii hippeus tôi sẽ yêu cầu đổi tên đơn vị này trong khi đợi chờ những điều mà bạn nói.
Royal guard, do not Hippeus it only for cavalry,
Và với chariot tôi vẫn trông đợi vào trample damage, bạn có thể giải thích AOE damage nó là gì được không? Cảm ơn rất nhiều khi mà tôi là một người chơi AOE1 classic, và chuyển qua AOE 2,
– điều tôi muốn là mang Sparta vào AOE1 đúng thời đại của đất nước này không phải AOE 2 nhưng dù sao t vẫn mong muốn nhìn thấy đất nước mình yêu thích nên tôi có thể chấp nhận, nhưng một lần nữa tôi khẳng định tôi không thể chấp nhận tất cả, tên của các Sparta hay vị thần bảo hộ của họ càng đặc biệt với tôi
Và xem lại đơn vị đặc biệt của Sparta :v thực sự là yếu aizzz, không thể xem nổi, và nhừn chiếc khiên trang trí bằng bọ cạp nữa nó không có
Why? The Spartans really had a heavy infantry unit called hippeus.
Not sure what you mean here. Ares wasn’t the patron god of Sparta, although he does seem to be on their wonder for some reason.
? No any information from internet and many people said no thing called by hippeus. What make you thing ít happened???
Power of Sparta, need Unique unit better,. Wasn’t??? He didn’t patron for you and Athen ít not mean he will not patron for Sparta. Ares guard for Sparta and never change. American want rewrite about god 
just happened in stupid studio like DC . Stupid
Hoplites seem to be a pretty strange unit. Since they don’t have any bonus damage they are not really good against anything, but since they have good armour they are not really bad against most units that don’t have anti Infantry bonus damage.
They lose against most infantry but beat most cavalry. They beat most archers without micro but that’s kind of a pointless metric, especially for cavalry archers.
What unit are you supposed to use them against? Trash units?
They are too similar to the Milita Line in my opinion.
I’d love to see them fight fully upgraded generic units instead tbh.
The most interesting thing is that they win against Serjeants though.
Maybe the results would be significantly different if there was a Polematch in the army, of in case of Athenian Hoplites a few Strategos.
It’s mentioned on the Wikipedia pages for Hippeis and the Spartan Army, but if that doesn’t satisfy you, here’s a more academic reference: (PDF) The Spartan Hippeis | Thomas Figueira - Academia.edu
My subject is the body of elite Spartan troops who were denominated hippeis (‘horsemen’). They numbered 300, and paradoxically, despite their nomenclature, served as infantrymen.
(Note: hippeis is the plural of hippeus.)
Sure, but that doesn’t work as an argument. You could replace Ares with basically any other god and it still works, e.g. Quetzalcoatl isn’t my patron god and he wasn’t the patron god of Athens, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t the patron god of Sparta. It’s true but doesn’t tell you anything about Sparta, only about what certain sentences mean.
Since you can’t be bothered to make a proper argument, I won’t bother with anything more than a Wikipedia reference for this one: Ares - Wikipedia
Numismatist M. Jessop Price states that Ares “typified the traditional Spartan character”, but had no important cult in Sparta; and he never occurs on Spartan coins.
I guess you mean Dark Horse (who published 300) rather than DC, but yes, Sparta has been misrepresented in American pop culture.
It you seen do not my view, and cavalry do not Infantry. You must accept the destiny:v
:v yes we need some change, and special is UU need change name and the way they work too. Need higher level of Hoplite
In the end the game as to be balanced.
A unit can’t be over powered just because you like it.
Maybe, I’m still waiting how Spartan work but the name of UU Sparta never I let they put the wrong for Sparta. Thế best thing about graphics is Ares god on wonder of Sparta. but wrong thing about him is the bow, Ares or Spartan more famous shield, sword and spear. Although I’m love bow but it is wrong. Sparta have bow but :)) look at archer camp they still do not have last upgrade . The best from DLC just is graphics