I believe HRE could use some love, here are my thoughts:
Would like to hear your thoughts, I think the faction seems a bit lacking
With these changes HRE would be completely unstoppable. At least with the way relics work so far. They would have to be nerfed drastically, or entirely reworked. I prefer number two. It should either be easier to steal relics from your enemy or they should be more like a resource that gets drained over time and after it’s done there’s a new one spawning somewhere on the map.
But anyway, I don’t think HRE should be buffed when it comes to relics. Maybe buff them somewhere else and nerf Regnitz
I’m not suggesting all these changes or really any one specific change, just spit balling ideas as the faction seems to be lacking something for me!
Appreciate your response
I must say I kinda like number 3, 4 and maybe 5 of your suggestions. Anything that encourages players to use their relics actively instead of just keeping them at home.
HRE are already on the strong side. I don’t see any reason or room for buffs unless Regnitz and Swabia get nerfed as compensation.
If HRE players are not very greedy and played like normal people it is very descent civilization. Just like people used to rely on China siege too much, HRE players also just rush Castle and end up losing to early aggression. As for buff, i think its opposite. HRE already got buffed. The only nerf it needs Prelates speed to be normal (like before patch) when picking up relics. So spears can chase them. Just like you can against RUS.
As for HRE they have access to MAA and Spears in Feudal Age. Both combinations are good at countering spears and knights and even archers. I don’t understand why HRE players just think relics are their property and there is no other way to play. Your Age 4 landmark is as broken as age 3.
Maybe buff the minework Palace a bit, but regnitz and swabia need a nerf as they are way too strong atm.
HRE is a pretty good civ, the issue with them is that regnitz and swabia are so good that it makes the civ one dimensional and extremely predictable. Players will risk loose to early aggression because they know the moment they get 3 relics in that cathedral is game over.
I feel like HRE is in a pretty good spot. It’s a risky move to FC, and pressure early can slow them down fairly quickly. I play as HRE as my second main and like them, but I’m also very happy to be playing an HRE player as I know exactly how to slow them down. I play team games only so my opinion is along that line of play.
It’s a late game Civ, it does well in the late game. Just like Delhi is a Castle Age civ and nothing else well.
or maybe you could put a relic inside the TC and get a shield that covers your whole base for 30 second or a minute…joke. you suggest buffs with no nerfs to the 2 strongest land marks in the game, that HRE has, how can you be serious, you just want free wins every game I’m guessing.
also people do understand that, if you were to have the 4th mechanic choice, you would not be able to get the relics back off the HRE civ, which is not fair seen as all other civs can have the relics stolen\dropped.
