Well who is it and what do you think? What Civ is easy to boom with and not mess up?
Indians without a doubt for me, discounted villagers is so powerful and a big bonus regardless of any map.
Plus even if youâre not booming, you save food for making troops.
That depends on your skill level. At lower skill levels you should prioritize civs with passive boni such as Vikings free wheelbarrow or Celts faster woodchoppers. In intermediate skill groups civs with cheaper techs/buildings/units are interesting (for example Teutons cheaper farmsâŠ).
At higher skill levels a civ like Persians with faster villager creation time can be used for booming. But this is much more complicated as you have to manage your resources carefullyâŠ
This SotL videos goes in-depth:
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Vikings, Indians, Khmer sound like strong contenders:
- Vikings have free wheelbarrow and hand cart, so virtually 5 more villagers and 500 to 1000 resources
- Indians villagers cost -10f, so it is easier to affird the 4 TCs boom
- Khmers age up earlier and have more efficient farms to afford the food for villagers
I kind of like Bulgarian or Briton cheaper TCs. Makes it easier to go for a 5TC boom, but not that good outside of that as booming civs. Indians, Teutons, and Poles might be my top 3. Cumans and Khmer would also be contenders, with Feudal TCs and good farms, as well as the good fast castle. Burgundians as well, with the cheaper techs and stuff.
- Didnt think about Poles, you are entirely correct.
- I would rule Cumans out. The Fast feudal into 2nd TC into fast castle yields for me similar result as Khmer, but is much harder to pull off
- I understand Britons and Teutons, they are good, but Bulgarians -50s feels underwhelming. They dont have eco to support 5 TCs, so I think you are better off buying or gathering 100 stone for the 4th TC.
I have no idea what âeasiestâ shall mean here, but the best booming civ for 200 pop is cumans with the 2nd TC boom.
Here is my booming analysis. the orange bars represent the for most civs optimal fc into 4 TC boom build, the blue the estimated improvement by adjusting the build to the civâs bonusses.
I wouldnât play it as Feudal TC into FC though. I would go Feudal boom for a while, then go up, and maybe add more TCs if needed. Its cheaper to buy the wood though than it is to buy the stone, at least in lower quantities. You can also delay the extra TCs a bit until you can support them to avoid market use entirely. It depends on how you play it and the map though.
Tipp for the cuman boom: Use the market!
Send your people to gold and buy your way up, this way you get a way faster uptime to add further TCs once you reached castle age (add stone miners aswell for that). If you play it like this there is no civ that can compete with the cuman boom (in 200 pop).
Why does it synergize so well with market abuse? Because Cumans have the by far best eco at that stage, they can justify to sacrifice a little bit of that eco for the faster uptime.
In my cumans build I added exactly 8 farms, but probably 12 would be better (even if this delays the uptime by 1 vill). I wouldnât make much more farms with cumans, instead just buy the way up. If you donât buy your Way up with cumans you end with something like 25-35 farms or so which is way too much investment at this stage of the game and of course the estra 1000 + wood invested delay your uptime massively. Especially as they are feudal farms with only 250 food on them.
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For me it means that you do not need to practice much or gave high multitasking skills to pull it off. And by that meaning Cuman and Chinese eco boni are bit easy (chinese not for booming but in general). Cumans 2 TC boom is for many very tight, not only to go up with 20 villagers, but also to be in castle time within reasonable time.
Nice chart btw !
Well, you are correct that it is not FC, I meant going to castle asap without idling TC.
I expect a 4 TC boom, so we only buy 100s for like 160g, which is cheaper than the ~400w saved by Britons to make 3 more TCs. Plus the sheep bonus Britons feel better off to me.
Thanks ! That is what I was missing !
I usually do not abuse with market (only buying 200f or so, and making 25 to 35 farms), soI arrived in Castle +3 TCs with 63 villagers at 24 minutes or so (forgot the details), which was only something 5 villagers and 2000 resources more that a regular civ, and I could get similar results with Khmer without all of the hardshipâŠ
So I heavily underestimated the Cuman boom. Still unsure whether I would recommend it to someone wanting an easy time booming.
For me itâs khmer, because itâs impossible to forgot to build the buildings.
They also have a pretty good fast castle into 3 TCs build, but that doesnât really qualify as âeasyâ.
Teutons have an easy time getting their food eco set up, and any civ that enables you to get 4+ TCs up and rolling is relatively forgiving.
Iâm assuming here that you donât have trouble remembering to get your eco techs, and you use the all-TCs hotkey.
Poles, Indians probably best
Persians arenât bad etiehr
Does cuman market abuse actually work in pvp? Id imagine you get the market up later than other civs, meaning you have to buy at maybe 170 or even higher (talking about 4v4, where freebooming is happening more often than in 1v1)
Well, pro players in team game tournaments like to play cumans as pocket and boom. And as I said, even if the market abuse is not an option, you still have a top-tier booming potential (similar to Khmers and Vikings) in addition to the paladin option later in the game. Moreover, if the opponent uses market abuse too (and is not Saracens), he will also get a worse boom, as opponents will not buy 500f to 1000f from the get go (not enough gold for that, gold comes slowly), so Cumans should be able to buy a few hundreds food for less than 170g.
Imo yes. Even if the prices are higher (in tg cumans should add more farms most likely cause of the way they are played), cumans can afford them cause they are so far ahead ecowise.
In 1v1s standard play against cumans 2nd TC is FC which means no market abuse, so the cumans should have the best prices still. A bit more complicated may be a matchu of cumans against saracens when the saracens player goes for the full market abuse play. Then it might be a mistake of cumans not adding enough farms.