I also like to see more civs from other continents but you have to admit that european civs are more popular (and not to mention the amount of evidences to create historically accurated content, as we have very little information about the mesoamericans and other civilizations).
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I think any civs āmeritā comparison is nonsense*. Every civ having a kingdom and being within the game period could be included. That said, I (and I believe most do too) hope to see more of the rest of the world before we head back to Europe, not because of āmeritā, but because there is more unexplored terrain there, as Usac put it.
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Well, for what the game asks for (eco, military, buildings etc) I donāt think this is too hard to get around
Are they? Go ask people if we should add civs in asia. Africa, etc and they say yes. Ask about Europe and the most common answer is later.
Yeah, except aoe2 has never really done a good job of this even wjth european civs. Priority to accuracy is Laughable
The vast majority does not want the next DLC-s to be in Europe. Things are clear: the community wants civilizations from the unrightfully ignored regions, instead of European duchies.
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With 109 votes in favour, 74 against and 37 neutral. I think those who want European civs are a majority.
I think the questioning on the poll is badly chosen.
Generally, speaking, few people are saying āI never want new European civsā, people say āI donāt want be European civs before civs from other parts of the worldā.
I would like new European civs. There are gaps in Europe left to fill. The thing is, I wouldnāt be enthused by more Europe right now. Thereās an order of priority. Rest of the world, then Europe.
Ask the question āDo you want more Europe?ā with no specified timescale and Iāll say yes.
Ask the question āDo you want more Europe within the next 4 DLCs?ā and Iāll say no.
You see what I mean? The questioning is a bit disingenuous and misunderstands the arguments of those whoād like to see civs from Africa, Asia, Americaā¦
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I think itās inaccurate to say we have very little knowledge of civs outside Europe. We have more than enough to design American and African civs. I would say that info about medieval Africa/America is harder to find online though, youāve really gotta read actual books.
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These mindsets BAFFLE me. Like itās your heritage. So what? There are 5-16 centuries between them and you. If you need their accomplishments to feel good about yourself, Iām sorry to hear.
Note this isnāt just an issue I have with European peoples, I donāt care if youāre Brazil, Indian subcontinent, Mexican or Native North American. I genuinely donāt care as this is a game first.
You can find enough information even if you fudge the numbers and anachronism or just something used more generally. For instance most of the elephant specific UTs, actually ALL of them are almost interchangeable.
There is nothing specifically Turkish about Artillery or any of the Teutonic UTs. Mercenaries used to be a UT nameā¦
Supremacy in the history of the manual section even mentions itās inspired by the Spanish ability to fight NAPOLEON.
Research is good but you can tweak the accuracy and nobody will be too upset.
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Yes, its my heritage, heritage of my country and my fellow citizens. And yes, iām proud of my history and history of my nation, i feel proud because i know how much sacrifice was made in the past so todayās people can live in peace.
I personally would sacrifice my life for the same cause today. Unlike others, renegades from their society, who do not respect their history or simply donāt have it, so they express their envy and anger towards history of other nations.
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Adding a civi european or non european for historical value is one thing but wanting to have my people represented in a game is just a bad argument.
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India has 4 civis now amd america has 3 for a long time.
Usacs point was having different unit combs makes the game better but when you select a meso civi you loose more than seven unit lines.So its always better to pick civis that can use more units for variation.He himself was trying to find a civi to have both elephants and sl line.
I think in recent DLC there are reallly too much Cavalry civ. And most Carvalry civ are from Euro. I think developer can consider adding archer civ
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I personally hope for africa, but also a new american expansion with a different approach than the current eagle design could be fun.
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There was an idea in forum saying that an Afician civ with a fast movement speed normal archer and it would be quite fun, giving that there is already fast moving infantry, high HP infantry and cheap infantry
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This has become nonsense conversation.
Letās just stop.
Making a new civs isnāt very hard but you should also think about making a campaign for it, thats when it gets hard. Why do u think we donāt have a Mayan campaign? Its not that easy then, considering it was one of the most important civilizations in ancient America.
Because the devs were lazy.
There is a lot of potential for Mayan Campaign. You cannot say that there is a lack of information about Mayan History.
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The game ask more things, itās not only the playability, which can be invented.
There isnāt enough material to make one. You canāt say the devs arenāt lazy because you can even find a custom one in the modshop.
Exactly! The Toltecs Empire was destroyed because the Maya City States formed the Mayapan League which expelled the Toltecs from Yucatan and began expanding in the Western Yucatan. The Northern Natives realized this and attacked the Toltec Empire from the North.
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