Evaluating the Cost for the value each DLC provided so far

[SMUM15236]

@Hzdrafxx

Poles civilization have been scored with 10 points.

Where?

I don’t see it.

[Hzdrafxx]

Did you even read the post I shared?

[DynasticPlanet5]

Why did they unban your egotistical sef important self again? No seriously try NOT being an arse

[DynasticPlanet5]

Sure dude. We are the abusive ones and not you.try learning kindness and gratitude. Anyway on topic…

To me the most important thing to me is more civs using fun units.

Im not a fan of new regionals for the sake of just flexing programming and coding skills for new mechanics and art. I just want new ways to play with the regional units we currently have and fun new combinations of said units. Its my dream to be at the helm of designing one and has been since before Casino got lucky enough to be able to figured out coding while I was still cranking out concepts.

Ah well one day if insanity isnt doing the same thing over again or something

[Hzdrafxx]

@DynasticPlanet5

being an arse

This right here. Is it a fact or a abuse?

@DynasticPlanet5

To me the most important thing to me is more civs using fun units.

Im not a fan of new regionals for the sake of just flexing programming and coding skills for new mechanics and art. I just want new ways to play with the regional units we currently have and fun new combinations of said units. Its my dream to be at the helm of designing one and has been since before Casino got lucky enough to be able to figured out coding while I was still cranking out concepts.

Ah well one day if insanity isnt doing the same thing over again or something

Again praising yourself on how great of a civ crafter you are, if only you knew coding… like your whole thread on it. Everyone should preach your ways bla bla bla. Ok fine stop repeating the same thing over and over again…

[Mahazona]

@Hzdrafxx

You , Twerdefender and Mahazona need spoonfeeding it seems. You people don’t know how to read.

How am I related to this discussion?

[Hzdrafxx]

Check who has liked it.

Evaluating the Cost for the value each DLC provided so far

Where? [imgonline-com-ua-twotoone-pVRMexpXz8] I don’t see it.

[Mahazona]

So?
Word limit sucks.

[Hzdrafxx]

So you don’t see it like him.

[SMUM15236]

@Hzdrafxx

Did you even read the post I shared?

2. Why would I? We’re talking about OP’s post.

@Hzdrafxx

spoonfeeding

I’m not familiar with this word.

@Hzdrafxx

You people don’t know how to read.

Teach me then. I’m even willing to pay.

@Hzdrafxx

Score for Poles = 1(Civilization Voice) + 2(Mechanics) + 1(Castle) + 1(Wonder) + 1(Obuch)+ 1(Winged Hussar) + 3(Folwarks)

Again where is this in OP’s post? I don’t see it. Can you quote it from OP’s thread?

@Hzdrafxx

Maybe use a calculator to add these since now I seriously don’t trust your maths abilities.

Maybe use a pair of eye and see which post I’m referring to as OP’s topic since now I seriously don’t trust your eye sighting and comprehending English text abilities.

@DynasticPlanet5

To me the most important thing to me is more civs using fun units.

And the word “Fun” by definition a subjective thing. Hence there is no way to evaluate a value of DLC by objective measure.

I appreciate OP’s effort. And I agree with that less or more. But I don’t see the approach to come to its conclusion as an objective approach.

[Hzdrafxx]

@SMUM15236

We’re talking about OP’s post

@Juggernaut8704

I haven’t counted an entire civilization as 1 score, it has been counted multiple times for its wonder, castle, unique unit, unique mechanics. That 1 score for civilization is for the User Interface and Voice Set as mentioned in the intro.

@SMUM15236

Again where is this in OP’s post? I don’t see it. Can you quote it from OP’s thread?

@Juggernaut8704

Making new civs requires a lot of additional assets apart from unit and building graphics such as its UI Interface and the voice set. So the number of civs also matter.

Here is mentioned in OP.

[TwerDefender]

@Hzdrafxx

You , Twerdefender and Mahazona need spoonfeeding it seems.

and you seem to deliberately ignoring the argument by focussing just on civilizations. How is a single hero worth the same as an entire campaign mission?
how ## # #### mechanic like shrivamsha arrow dodging worth the same as a well designed tech tree?
why is a civ with 10 bad unique mechancis and UUs worth more than a well designed civ without new mechanics in the game engine

@Hzdrafxx

This right here. Is it a fact or a abuse?

you are being combatative and are clearly not interested in constructive conversations. name calling is pointless though. so both?

[TwerDefender]

@Hzdrafxx

@TwerDefender

you seem to deliberately ignoring the argument by focussing just on

The art of changing goal posts. Why should I focus on the argument that you want?

Why shouldn’t I focus on the sentence that he directly gave?

@TwerDefender

this is a very strange, and in my opinion really bad way of scoring. a single extra hero unit is worth the same as an entire campaign mission or civilization.

also there is no thought give to the quality of each of these. the community almost unanimously hates flemish revolution and shrivamsha, yet it’s given the same single point as a popular mechanic like the armor removing of obuchi

you replied to me. I don’t care what the other person wrote. This is what I wrote waaaaaay before you joined the discussion, yet I am the one moving goal posts?
In that I already bring up that different vastly different things are given equal weight (admittedly civs can get additional points through other stuff, but I already also mentioned the comparison of heros to scenarios) and that there is no thought given to the quality of these additions. So you are the one moving the goal post and insulting people.

[TwerDefender]

@SMUM15236

Considering a lot of new contents as equal score point. For example there is no objective reason to conclude a new hero unit and a new civ is equal score.

you mean this post? the first part is still valid “Considering a lot of new contents as equal score point.” which is why I liked the post. the example given is not entirely correct, but the main criticism “this way of rating is bad, because it gives equal value to different things” is.

Nobody “deserves” an insult for liking a post. You asked a valid question and got a valid response, this is not a personal attack on you.

And you are fully ignoring that main point the entire time

[SMUM15236]

@Hzdrafxx

Here is mentioned in OP.

Not on OP. It was a later reply.

@TwerDefender

you mean this post? the first part is still valid “Considering a lot of new contents as equal score point.” which is why I liked the post. the example given is not entirely correct, but the main criticism “this way of rating is bad, because it gives equal value to different things” is.

I mean fine. OP in OP called for weighted score for us. And how can we weigh? Only scale is our personal experience and feelings.

In the end value of DLC matters little to me. If my wallet can afford it, I’m buying the DLC. Period.

[Hzdrafxx]

@SMUM15236

It was a later reply.

The fourth quote is from OP

Evaluating the Cost for the value each DLC provided so far

Here is mentioned in OP.

Now pay me like you promised.

[SMUM15236]

@Hzdrafxx

The fourth quote is from OP

Here is mentioned in OP.

But he didn’t give any extra point in OP. That’s the whole point.

[Juggernaut8704]

Victors and Vanquished

• Total Number of Scenarios - 19
• Number of Civs - 0
• New Mechanics to the Game Engine - 0
• Units and Buildings - 0
  Grand Total = 19+0+0+0 = 19
  Price at Store = INR 319
  Cost for value = 319/19 = 16.79

Icon DLCs

• No Scenarios - 0
• Number of Civs - 0
• New Mechanics to the Game Engine - 1
  Animated Profiles
• Units and Buildings - 0
  Grand Total = 0+0+0+1 = 1
  Price at Store = INR 81 x 3
  Cost for value = 243/1 = 243

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Updated Ranking

1. Dynasties of India (5.70)
2. Dawn of the Duke (6.46)
3. Lords of the West (8.31)
4. Return of Rome (15.12)
5. Victors and Vanquished (16.79)
6. The Mountain Royals (28.09)
7. Icons DLCs (243)

[TwerDefender]

putting 19 scenarios, most of which are available for free anyway on the same level as campaign missions with a proper storyline feels completely off to me

[Akoskaaa10]

To me The Mountain Royals is much more valuable. It has 15 scenarios and 2 new civs compared to 5 scenarios (14 are them are just free workshop content).