I hope you are right. Morocco would make more sense.
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Texas is a Mexico revolution which existed on the sole reason that American immigrants didn’t want to lose their slaves.
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i dont think revolutions have the same limits as full civs, after all barbery states are also currently a revolution.
I think it’s possible to fuse Barbary Pirates & Morocco into a single civ rather than having each as a separate civ. If that’s the case, then it’s more likely to have Morocco than Barbary Pirates. Thinking along thematical lines, I think having a Morocco/Persia DLC is more likely than Morocco/Denmark or Denmark/Poland.
I also wonder why the following revolutions for European Civs don’t exist: Poland, Greece, Serbia or Bulgaria. Each can revolt from 2 of Germans, Russians or Ottomans.
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Greece had French influence in its army, so maybe they could revolt from the French too.
I do believe that if they ever become a revolution, its units should speak Greek, not their parent civ language
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They had French and British support but that is a very weak justification.
A Greek revolution would be a very good fit for Ottomans, Italy, and Malta. All held Greek territory, and most of the existing revolutions for Italy and Malta are very poor or completely made up.
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its all true, and then tilanus said this is my house and im your dadnow kiddo and then kicked me out of my own house while wearing an “ABUS4LYFE” t shirt and ranting he was going to make tuvalu a civ before he split germans
source: my dreams after too much siracha aoeli burgers last night.
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Argentina is an Italian rev just because there was Italian immigration to Argentina. Same for Colombia and Germany. That’s even weaker.
Over 60% of Argentines have Italian ancestors and there was a significant Italian presence since before the revolution. It’s by far the revolution with the strongest justification for Italy. Their American revolution is also only based on immigration, but Italian immigration to the USA was almost entirely 20th century and proportionally far less.
Colombia for Germans is based on Klein-Venedig which is a pretty solid basis.
Meanwhile Malta has a Hungarian revolution and Italy has a Romanian revolution based on absolutely no connection whatsoever.
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The Knights of Saint John held territories in those places so that’s the “justification”.
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And why not all these other territories?
Romania had a Maltese king so that would be a much stronger connection in my opinion.
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There’s a reason I put justification is quotes.
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I know, but it was a good excuse to bring up the Romanian connection. For Italy, Corsica would be a solid revolution option even if it is a little lesser known.
Yes, Morocco and Bormu are more closed to me (the Barbary States were more Ottoman protectorates than anything else)…
I don’t think so…Morocco was an independent country until now…the Barbary Pirates/States were Ottoman protectorates until 1860s…
Every revolution should speak the language of the Revolting country concerned. Canada could even have 2: Standard Canadian English & Québécois French, depending on which of British or French they revolt from.
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Exactly. Argentina didn’t revolt from Italy and Colombia didn’t revolt from Germany. And as you say, Malta and Italy have no relation with Hungary and Romania. The criteria for which civ has which revolution is maleable
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Sure sounds convincing but I reaaally really hope it is an Asian civ so they finally update underused (or forgotten to update) elements for all Asian civs.
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For the most part the criteria is territorial holdings or a significant population in the region that revolted. Even having a revolution is not really needed since there are options like Canada and South Africa that didn’t revolt other than a few small scale uprisings.
Based on that criteria there are several revolutions that should be removed from certain civs, and a few that should be added.
Italy - Remove USA and Romania and add Greece
Malta - Remove Hungary and add Greece and Romania
Britain - Remove Haiti
France - Add Mexico (Pastry war occupation)
Portugal - Add Canada (Labrador) and remove either Colombia or Peru
Ottomans - Add Greece
There are obvious lots more that that could be added like Australia or Ukraine, but Greece would have the biggest impact in fixing the existing revolution options.
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Don’t forget Belgium, for both the Dutch and Germans (maybe French depending on how much you want to stretch it)
Maybe Norway as well. For the Swedes and a hypothetical Danish civ
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Both of those would be solid choices. But France and Germany already have solid options so Belgium wouldn’t be super urgent. And Norway would be predicated on Denmark being added. Same with adding Ukraine needing Poland to be added. If you want to get into the weeds there are plenty of other options like Pirate Republic, Corsica, Liberia/Gold Coast, Philippines, Northwest Confederacy, Taiping Heavenly Kingdom, Sokoto Caliphate, etc.