Yes, probably, but I think Belgium is far better than any of the Germans currently have (besides the Hungarians). Same thing for the Dutch.
This one is a surprisingly good candidate I hadn’t consider before. None would probably fit the Italians better than this one.
I don’t really mind the German revs. Klein-Venedig is pretty good justification for Colombia and Argentina is infamous for its German population (even if it did mostly come later). USA could also fit for them since there was a lot of German immigration there too.
Belgium would be really versatile since it could apply to Dutch, French, Germans, and Spanish. But most of those aren’t lacking revolutions so I wouldn’t say it’s urgent.
Corsica is really the only true Italian revolution and has the benefit of also working for France and even Britain. But unfortunately it’s not well known apart from some Pasquale Paoli enthusiasts.
1000% Devs! Haiti is an mish-mash though the most recent updates to it push it correctly towards the post-French rule version - it however doesn’t fit the British.
I would eat my pirate hat if they implemented the 'Pirate Republic’ instead, especially as it was an actual thing that disenfranchised sailors and ex-privateers became part of in a loose commonwealth, effectively revolting from the home country, which in the case of the Bahamas-based pirates was the British Isles (and North America).
Rev HC: Nassau, New Providence
Quirks - lots of Taverns, certain buildings get turned into other things on revolting from the British (i.e Factories turn into Trader’s Houses and Barracks turning into Tent Camp Towns - i.e re-used Surgeons Tents), Musketers turn to Freebooters (pirates with muskets), Longbow/Rangers turn into Logwood Cutters (musket-armed light infantry that can of course chop wood) cav are turned to the typical melee Pirates, Settlers turn into Pressed Men (reskinned Insurgentes), etc.
Anyway, getting back to the more Mediterranean-flavored pirates, I think they can be justified as a civ, however I’m sure it would see a slight shame if they appeared before Morocco. Aside from the appearing as a Revolution choice, it makes sense as sort of early (mexico-style) early additional Revolution for the Moroccans where they came become Barbary Pirates as an early rev choice (HC: Sale).
Yeah, sure. There is some historical connection. But Belgium would still still make more sense. And remember that the Germans only have 3 revolts, only the Swedes have fewer revolt options. Belgium would give them a fourth option that is actually perfectly justified.
Yeah, they should have a pirate revolt instead and make Haiti an actual slave revolt.
Speaking of the British, Ireland could also work as a revolution for them.
Why is the civ Moroccans or Barbary States/Barbary Coast instead of Amazigh?
That way, the civ could be far more African in character and still have age up alliances from Moroccans, Barbary Pirates, Zenata, etc.
Do note that this would not necessarily conflict with the pre-existing Berber native sockets. It’s happened before. The Quechua and Inca exist side by side normally, and even train, basically, the same pike unit. Two different names for the same culture.
Because vague umbrella civs are bad and in this case it isn’t even accurate. Morocco is not just Berber, it is a mix of Arabs and Berbers.
The Inca/Quechua distinction is very poorly done so I don’t think it should be replicated. They have units that look exactly the same and have opposite roles which is a terrible way to have them.
But it happened regardless, has not been changed in any meaningful way (and it’s become even more muddled thanks to the ######## changes), and is now a working, standing precedent.
That is why we would have the Berber umbrella civ, with a Moroccans alliance option and possibly even a native that reflects the multicultural aspects of Moroccan society.
In order to reflect those multicultural aspects, wouldn’t it make more sense to keep the Berbers as a minor civ?
I really don’t understand where you’re coming from. Morocco with a Berber alliance would make so much more sense than the other way around. Amazigh are adequately represented by the Berber minor civ, and a Morocco civ and Barbary revolution are just the cherry on top.
Argentina being revolution of Germany is because Ulrich Schmidl (German Landsknecht that colaborated with the foundation of Buenos Aires in 1536)…
I agree. Morocco was the big civ here not the Berbers
Morocco is a country, Berber (Amazigh, Berber word has offensive origins) is culture.
Morocco have mixed arab and amazigh population, but Arabs have been dominating for quite some time.
What about a Moroccan/Maghrebi civ separate from a normal Amazigh civ?
Much like how Brits and USA are separate, and how the Mexicans civis separate from both the Spanish and the Aztec civs.
The Moroccans/Maghrebis can maybe be a Federal civilization that takes major cues from the Ottomans, while the Amazigh can be a more traditional African civilization.
I expected the last dlc to be morocco and barbary pirates as there are a lot of assets already in the game so if I had to bet I’d assume it would be those 2 civs with a few new maps. As we’re expecting more than one new civ if it were not those then it would be some sort of other themed dlc maybe asian.
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