I took a break for a few weeks as the balance was in an absolute state, I’ve come back and am glad to see way less siege, but team games in particular are just full with fire lance spamming, almost every game has 3-4 players playing as Chinese and exclusively training fire lancers, mostly trying to landmark snipe but they are still way too strong against units like man at arms that should counter them. While its not necessarily too hard to counter with certain civs its just making games unenjoyable. Hope the devs actually do something about this soon.


The abbasid people have already bathed with tears :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob:

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Another topic complaining fire lancer was 1 month ago but this issue is even not dev’s consideration list from their respond.

Despite having camels Abbasids suffer the most from it since they only have 2 landmarks, most other civs u can just hide a landmark and stone wall around it, harder for Abbasids to do.

Yes or hide entire city cause it takes like 0,1 seconds for FL to destroy all yours farms/mills and entire economy …

Lol, but I think FL is a kind of fun in 3v3 and 4v4 games… Make the game full of uncertainty… xd

That’s true but most firelance spammers are kinda dumb from my experience like most seem to only go for landmarks without realising they could just completely cripple your economy with them, idk its weird

That applies to most of what low level players use, but, at a lower level, balanced units aren’t so important anyway.

On an off note, one day, when the meta is flushed out for all the Civs, we may look back fondly on a time when we had FL spam from China.

Only comment here so this biggest issue of entire game is n.1 on main page again and not hidden behind some useless post like Mongol “Khan” unit cannot be female! OR Lucifron’s disgusting trick, to avoid a stockade etc. etc.

If devs. are not gonna fix this during january it simply means that team-games remains unplayable for another 2 months.

Simple solution, if you see Chinese opponent, leave game and let him know no one wants to play with China. They can play with bots if they like Chinese vic so much.