Franks Castle?

[JuryMusic777863]

Pardon, mais… what is that Franks Castle??
What is it based on? it looks waaaay too modern..
I was expecting something more simple ou earlier. Not something with fancy cheminées and fancy windows.

This looks way too modern like 18th century.
Like Château de Saumur or Château de Vaux-le-Vicomte. You don’t expect that in AoE2…
Is it maybe inspired by Mont Saint-Michel? Then still i would not expect it to look like this i’m sorry.
Or Château de Pierrefonds?
Still it is weird. The others have a better design. This looks like purée de pommes de terre

[CouguarLoup7693]

It’s the wall of a medieval castle and the roof of the Chambord castle

One of the current castles will be replaced

The roof of the french castle look too much to the Chambord castle, a XVI th century castle not a medieval castle. A more medieval like Carcassonne or Fougères would be nice. This can be fixed removing the top of the towers and the XVI th century windows and chimney . [1f63126cd956c555e1d0bebe7d7933b67fd2952a] The two circles at the left are shadow of the tower and chimney to be removed.

[Ekarlath]

Je vais me permettre de répondre en français à cette question.

Le style du château est inspiré des nombreux édifices construit dans la Loire, beaucoup ont en effet été modernisés, mais celui dépeint dans le jeu est assez fidèle à la réalité. Oui, les cheminées font très modernes, les toitures aussi, mais la réalité est simplement que ce style a été perpétué énormément par la suite. C’est un style que l’on pourrait qualifié comme étant du “Haut Moyen-Âge”, donc en jeu comme étant de “l’Âge Impérial”.

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Now for the english part of my answer, I’m surprised they didn’t picked Guedelon fortress, which is still beeing built at the moment, as an oldschool french stronghold, that would have been very epic. But, I understand their choices to go more Late-Middle-Age style, because the Franks civ ingame should represent a very long timeframe, including late middle age period.

So in my opinion, they did a great choice. The sprite was already concepted for burgundian, according to the fandom.

And if they picked savoy style castles, well that would make savoy conflict if they plan to release them as a civ, or the swiss, where a lot of fortress are from the savoy guys, like “Chillon” which is a very nice castle to visit IRL if you pass in Switzerland someday.

So final note, remember that the 100 year war introduced a lot of gunpowder style tactics. At that point, stronghold meant to resist catapult became totally … Useless, so they started to make castle more of prestige rather than defensive.

[JuryMusic777863]

@Ekarlath

Le style du château est inspiré des nombreux édifices construit dans la Loire, beaucoup ont en effet été modernisés, mais celui dépeint dans le jeu est assez fidèle à la réalité. Oui, les cheminées font très modernes, les toitures aussi, mais la réalité est simplement que ce style a été perpétué énormément par la suite. C’est un style que l’on pourrait qualifié comme étant du “Haut Moyen-Âge”, donc en jeu comme étant de “l’Âge Impérial”.

Ah vraiment, aussi avec le chateau Chambord c’est de 1519.. donc c’est l’age imperial.

@Ekarlath

Late-Middle-Age style, because the Franks civ ingame should represent a very long timeframe, including late middle age period.

ah okay you make a point, from the throwing axes here in the lowlands to the château de Chambord. Donc it covers everything.

@Ekarlath

And if they picked savoy style castles, well that would make savoy conflict if they plan to release them as a civ, or the swiss, where a lot of fortress are from the savoy guys, like “Chillon” which is a very nice castle to visit IRL if you pass in Switzerland someday.

Ah oui, i expect them to pick some northern castle which is more with the normans or burgundy.

@Ekarlath

“Chillon” which is a very nice castle to visit IRL if you pass in Switzerland someday.

oh merci! peut-être.

@Ekarlath

Useless, so they started to make castle more of prestige rather than defensive.

ah yes, or more practical fortress like the turkish one, and here in the lowlands they made ‘starfortresses’.
Or like Fort Libéria.

[UnAutreVoyage]

I would say that Imperial Age is “Bas” Moyen-Âge. And I agree the new French castle look too late and not medieval enough.