I… I think I know what’s going on. You guys enjoy reading my posts, don’t you? What is it: my username, my style; what is it? Because I’ve already explained this point, but if you bring it up again, it must be due to a longing of reading my words once again. I’ll repeat myself:
“NOMADIC CIVS ARE OKAY IN THIS GAME if they did something of significant impact to world history. That’s Huns and Mongols”.
Maybe I should repeat it a few more times:
“NOMADIC CIVS ARE OKAY IN THIS GAME if they did something of significant impact to world history. That’s Huns and Mongols.”
“NOMADIC CIVS ARE OKAY IN THIS GAME if they did something of significant impact to world history. That’s Huns and Mongols.”
“NOMADIC CIVS ARE OKAY IN THIS GAME if they did something of significant impact to world history. That’s Huns and Mongols.”
“NOMADIC CIVS ARE OKAY IN THIS GAME if they did something of significant impact to world history. That’s Huns and Mongols.”
The Huns’ wonder is a Roman building in ruins with loot on it’s base. The devs actually doubled down on the fact that Huns didn’t really have buildings on their own, while enhancing why they were fitting for the game.
What this article describes is that individual houses were scattered across the land. Those aren’t settlements. That doesn’t even amount to a town center in AOE terms.
I don’t know man I wouldn’t use the “significant” argument. Cumans are pretty insignificant, all they did was just run away from Mongols only to be absorbed into Hungary and vanish from history in a generation or two. Why did they add Cumans? Simple, because they read of Kotyan and thought the story was cool. Have cumans or Huns ever built a university or even just a primary school? I don’t think so but to let Attila out of the game would have been a crime imo. And I’m happy to have Cumans, Bohemians and Burgundians too despite people being angry at Europe or whatever.
I know next to nothing of south America but Lautaro offers himself to be a good campaign and mapuche to be a fun civ to play with. Of course suspension of disbelief whenever you see Attila order to build a monastery or a mapuche chieftain building a Castle but this has always been aoe2 after all… The game is literally just about seeing some cool story or character or unit and say oh fun let’s add to the game, like I’m sure it happened with Korean turtle ships which appear only in 1598.
I disagree with this. The Cumans were probably one of the most important peoples from the Medieval Eurasian Steppe. They fought in many wars in Eastern Europe.
They were also relatively culturally advanced for a nomadic steppe people and Western merchants thought their language was important enough to create the Codex Cumanicus, which is one of the first written dictionaries of any Turkic language.
Even after the Mongol invasion those Cumans who stayed behind were a significant part of the Golden Horde and they would later become the Tatar peoples (mostly the Crimean, but other groups like the Volga ones may also partially descend from the Cumans). The Cuman language was still the lingua franca of the Golden Horde, which is by the way a name given later to the Horde, since during the Middle Ages it was still called Kipchak Khanate or even sometimes still Comania
I am not sure if it is related to what I said here:
I simply mesnt that this was the first time mechants bothered doing this with a Steppe culture, so it seems they more relevance than other peoples from the Pontic Steppe, especially thise who preceeded the Cumans.
Anyways, assigining relevance to any potential new civ in the game is always going to be very subjetive. That’s why I always prefer to focus on other ideas, like the relation amy new civs could have with those already present in the game, how well recorded their History is, to which degree are they covered by other civs and, of course, what kind of gameplay innovations they could bring to the table.
You get the truth. As an obvious phenomenon , nowadays what to eat for the winter solstice day (including but not limited to Jiaozi or Yuanzi as usual) can still becomes arguement among Chinese people from deferent areas .
There are always many regional braches of Chinese, not only the ethnic minorities.Such as what they are in your list.They even have had different native gods and religions and unique military units throughout history.
In fact not always.
After Qing dynasty and before middle term of Tang Dynasty , conflicts always broke out not only between Chinese and the nomad ethnic groups, but also between people of the area west to Hangu Pass and people of the area east to Hangu Pass in north part of China proper (for example war between warlord Dongzhuo and warlord Yuanshao at late term of Han Dynasty), while most of the south area was semi-independent or had autonomy and got conflict with the north area(for example the Northern and Southern Dynasties) for part time.
After middle term of Tang Dynasty , the later one became main contradiction.
Besides those, there are always many regional braches of Chinese which usually bacame separatism kingdoms or autonomous regions, not only the ethnic minorities.They even have had different native gods and religions (for example Li Bing of Sichuanese, Mazu of Hokkienish) and unique military units ( junk in AOE3 is a Hokkienish unit in real history) throughout history.
I’m not sure about the Haudenosaunee part or the hornet throwers but I love pretty much everything else about this! I’d also been thinking the De Soto campaign idea but I wanted to do something with Cahokia too, and I think your solution to do it when we don’t have historical record of any specific characters is a really clever way of going about it!
Not sure. They sure do call people randomly racist and bullies and criminals. Dont you hate when that randomly happens for no provoked reason with potential real world ramifications.
Omg you’ve been offended ahah… Next time just try to not shut up a person just because they start a thread about a civ you don’t care. You’re not the only person in the world, everybody can care and discuss for what they want.
So what’s up with this bet you’re referring to? Last time I checked there was a comment online that I should know you and suddenly it’s down. Are you afraid of something or what?
If you come at anyone with criminal charges for disagreeing on the internet, yes I will rush to defend them myself included so im just going to stop you for your constant false accusations.
You’re right that I was a bit raw but please now I’m just being moderate, just let people have their opinion without making fun of them because they like Europe.
I know you’re probably not racist or anything but these things work both ways, what would you think if I was going in every African civ post and say “ah ah African villages” or something like that? You can argue your point without being this dismissive.
My roughness came from the fact I’ve seen 20 times the same jokes about Italian city states by people that probably know of Italy as much as I know of India (the difference being I don’t speak about India).