More I look into them it seems like the Purepechas might be a good shout, maybe them and Mississippians with a Mayan campaign as a DLC, but beyond that and maaaaaaaybe the Chimor you mention i’m really not sure I want to add any more American civs. I get wanting to see more eagle warriors but again one of my rules for what i’m doing is some level of nation building, or at least confederation building (the Cumans weren’t really a nation but a confederation for example so that prescedent is kinda set for us)
How is it exactly?
You said ‘we are low on meso civs we can have another 10’ that has no mention of gameplay.
And some of those units just need to be added to more civs
Yeah another 10 of just American civs is waaaaaay overboard IMO. Honestly I think total the game probably shouldn’t go far over 60 civs. I like getting more content but there is a point where it becomes too much.
They were the main rival to the Aztecs, and were never conquered them. Their History is also very well recorded.
I would like to see a second South-American civilization, and I think this one is the strongest candidate, partially because its History is relatively well recorded. And as I said before, we could finally have a non-Inca civ in Pachacuti’s campaign.
This could be cool, the only problems are its relative isolation (they would basically be what the Inca are now) and its lack of records.
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Yeah most of the records of the Mississippians are from non-written archaeological records, and from Spanish contact. I had found one interesting subject that basically used Spanish explorers to expand their own power that could be campaign material but I lost it so i’d need to re-find that.
UPDATE: Going back through it more it looks like the Spanish being used as a diplomatic tool was done, but still no references to particular people/leaders that were doing it that a campaign could be built around. Same with Cahokia there is no reference to any specific leaders or their deeds, just general archaeological record of what happened there.
It’s exactly what he said, he doesn’t care about actual diversity. Saying something like 10 civs here and 10 civs there or making jokes about the dimensions of a country just show how vapid you are when it comes to really comprehend different cultures and add them to a game.
It’s just a matter of numbers and dimensions to him, it’s as smart as measuring your own cocky to see if it’s longer than anyone else. This is the same reasoning people used to wage war to each other… One think in 2023 we would be mature enough to not measure cultures this way but I guess the age of Empires is not over indeed…
Maybe one day people will understand that having an unrepresented place of the world doesn’t give you the right to be a racist and shit on others or things you don’t even know and comprehend… I don’t know a shit about India, have you ever heard me talk about that or saying something against people who just simply TALK about it?
Anyway I seem to be the only one to call out these kind of behaviour here so I guess people are ok with it…
Wow, congratulations on finding the only two (very simple) Mapuche buildings that weren’t even used as homes. Inca fortresses have nothing on them, do they? Maybe we could start including civs from the Stone Age.
So i’m fairly new on the forums, is this how they always are? Because if so i’ll just forget about this whole thing and save myself time doing something else where there aren’t stupid, winding, hard to keep track of, almost off-topic, and hostile debates that you get implied to be a racist for not participating in…
The Berber campaign is the conquest of Iberia.
How would you make Moors and Berbers different?
These eight new African civilizations are my most optimistic imagination for this region. Frankly speaking, I think the Malians are likely to serve as a big umbrella for the various regimes that changed in that region, and the Bantu people will not have three civilizations as the Swahilis may be pretty similar to Somalis in the tech tree. Therefore, a more realistic guess is 4 to 5 civilizations, including the Kanuris, Nubians, Somalis, and Bantu that could be split into Kongolese and Shona.
If you mean that the Tibetans are a risk, you can just choose Gokturks and Sogdians for the Central Asian DLC. But anyway the DLC of Khitans and Jurchens is basically a must.
If Mapuche could be a new civilization, their biggest gimmick would be that they were the only American civilization to use cavalry. However I have heard that as long as the American civilization is in this game, cavalry are not available, which kills the need for them to be in the game. AoE3 is more suitable for them.
The New World DLC I think includes Tarascan, Muisca and Chimu. Maybe Polynesians could be in this DLC as well, but I think it’s extremely unlikely. North America? Leave there in the AoE3.
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UpmostRook9474 You’re not a native English speaker, are you?
Oh, and Comechingones should be added as a South American civ. That’s definite.
They traded with arabs but not close by powers like chinese?
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Hehe, no; I’m not native English speaker either. It’s just that I’ve found some fo your expressions quite funny, like “as long as the American civ” and “leave there in the AOE3”
That’s the result of Google Translate. When I am looking for speed, I will directly use Google to translate my native language into English instead of typing in English directly, because it is faster for me to type in my native language.
I mean, “If an American civ is to be in the game, cavalry must be not available to it”, “Leave them in AoE3.”
In elementary school I had a classmate who was moving to the state of Georgia, and she was looking at the Georgia flag and was like “eugh that looks hideous” but was looking at the old pre-2004 country flag (image below) and not the state flag 11
Amigo, deje de pegarse el show. Hoop es profesor de historia y chileno. Te aseguro que sabe de mapuches
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That still doesn’t make Mapuches viable for the game. He can display all his vast knowledge on the matter and it would be a moot point. If, and only if, he provides evidence that the Mapuche erected permanent houses, that is, they had settlements, I would change my mind.
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If its fine for old world nomadic people like huns mongols to be ingame why are you so opposed for having new world nomads?
Huns Mongols Cumans have fantasy buildings for wonders so another having them is okish I guess.
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