GAME MAKERS NEED TO READ HISTORY PLEASE. INDIANS WERE THE PIONEERS OF WAR ELEPHANTS

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@VALORNeptune

Indians are picked to play mainly by indian players (there are so many indian players with big indian population).

Indians are picked by many people, even those who are not Indian, depending on the situation, and just because you have a huge number of people does not mean that all of them play the game.

@VALORNeptune

Lot of my indian friends have already stopped picking indians due to how weak they are made as a civ in this game.

weak? Indians? winrates disagree with you.
https://aoestats.io/map/arabia/RM_1v1

@VALORNeptune

elephants archer is worthless. Its should be like persian war elephant (historically accurate should be stronger elephant).

this game has NEVER claimed to be historically accurate, and even one of the best pros on the planet agrees that the Elephant Archer can be very good in certain situations, it’s just hard to get there. it’s not worthless.

@VALORNeptune

They can take away imperial camel, thats more persian than indian.

that’s not going to be a big enough nerf to the civ. go look at how much Khmer has been nerfed.

@VALORNeptune

cheap vills, ok makes sense but isnt that useful in game once u reach imp or done building eco.

cheaper villagers is always nice and helps more then you are letting on, it makes your gameplay smoother and helps you boom harder and faster.

@VALORNeptune

what else makes their eco good? they dont even have third farm tech… other civs have better eco.

they have all the other upgrades, they have a better villager boom, and they have sultans.

@VALORNeptune

exellent gunpower? its average gunpower… only thing they get is one more range… other civs with bombard towers are better… and shieity seige ofcourse.

BBT are almost never seen in the game, but they get HC + range, BBC + Siege Engineers, and ECG for water play, far more then most civs get.

@VALORNeptune

Overall, they have been downgraded in each and every aspect. very underpowered. Not balanced at all. What BS. There is literally no counter to eagle warriors or gotsh husk/infantry.

first of all, the win rates disagree with them being under-powered, especially in team games, where they are arguably the best civilization in the game.

second of all, every civ needs a weakness, and frankly i attribute most the weakness of Indians to Infantry civilizations to the fact that hand cannons are not performing well and need a buff.
as you can see others think the same thing about the hand cannon

@JokerPenguin593

I think Indians will receive a change the incoming patch, but not an specific one: a HC buff.

also here is some mod posts talking about the Indian Elephant situation.

Indian and Persian Elephant suggestions

Please. This is Age of Empires, not a Total War game. Historical accuracy is nice but to a certain degree it has to be sacrificed for gameplay and balance.

Battle Elephants for the Indians

We are only fans of the game, so it is not completely out of the question that the devs will give Indians a variation of battle elephant at some point. However, I agree with the general sentiment here that Age of Empires is about gameplay over historical accuracy more often than not and it is meant to interest the player in learning more about each historical civilization. There’s nothing wrong with that. It’s a game, after all, not a historical simulation.