No
Goths don’t need a buff
Yeah they lose vs other infantry but that shouldn’t be an issue if you actually lean into their bonuses
When you attack, off a half decent economy you’re able to field a virtually endless army because of how cheap it is to make as goths. Lean into their bonuses. Obviously you’re going to lose in pitched battles against better infantry civs (ignoring the fact that they get hand cannon) but that’s not an issue because you can produce double the amount of units that they can with the same economy. It’s never about winning one big fight, it’s about the follow up, and once you’re in a half decent position with goths you have infinite army. Goths are basically unkillable in imperial age after perfusion unless you’re already killing them.
If you’re fighting with equal numbers as goths, then you’re doing something wrong.
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You’re not wrong, but with the introduction of supplies to infantry civs other than the goths they lose allot of their advantage as far as price wars go
okay and with the introduction of bloodlines frankish paladins lost a lot of their advantages over other civs. they still have an advantage though.
Goths infantry is not only still cheaper then other civs (because their bonus applies to all infantry, and the entire cost, not just militia line, and only the food cost), but they make their infantry faster too.
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Some civs lost supplies recently, which is good for goths
but none of them infantry civs, which is what he wants buffs against.
which on one hand is understandable, infantry civs are where goths struggle the most (3 of their top 5 lowest winrates are against infantry civs).
on the other hand Goths do so well against non infantry civs that making them stronger vs infantry civs would be a huge issue.
There have been posts around the net asking for franks to gain bloodlines for a few years now
i sure as heck haven’t seen them, and frankly, Franks don’t need any buffs either. they are straight up an S tier Civ atm.
Nobody serious or anyone that understands balance asks for it
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i mean maybe pre chivalry era, but now that chivalry exists, its not a real issue.
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yup chivalry, foraging bonus, squires, all cavalry benefiting from HP bonus and TAxemen buffs made Franks better than they were ever
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Im sorry but has anyone asked if you even play ranked? You want to nerf supplies which nerfs militia line which is potentially THE MOST contested unit in the game, tons of people explaining why they are currently too weak and you want to nerf them even more 
Supplies was made a feudal tech for a reason.
Next, i agree with everyone else, goths are situationally nigh unstoppable imperial age, you’re trying to break the game. If anything goths can get a feudal and/or castle age buff. But certainly not imperial.
There already exists almost impossible imperial match ups like mayan vs goths, this would swing it even further
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I’m a teuton player, I respect the goths and enjoy the matchup, but I also know they have a steep hill to climb to defeat me even in imperial age as long as I maintain focus and keep the healing fortress and co. alive, maybe it’s a difference in civ experience
If you move Supplies to imperial you defeat the whole purpose for which the devs added Supplies (and that was clearly to make longswords viable in castle age, which still failed and I think supplies aren’t a good solution to it but thats a topic for another post)
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