Unfortunately, this Devs for Greece it must be a please 
Devs wonât add something JUST because some random forumer asked for it.
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Please, devs, add Greece!
There. They wonât add it just because I asked for it
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No,Devs dontâs make It become Greece civ,this ottomanârevolution itâs Enough
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This.
We should keep the suggestions within the relevant threads otherwise these separate ones just appear as essentially, begging posts.
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Sorry, Itâs all my fault. I shouldnât post begging posts anymore. Dev will not become Greece civilization. Please forgive meïŒI think itâs very embarrassed 
Even the best make mistakes, donât sweat it.
But seriously, asking for something doesnât mean that devs will add it. Maybe not all players care, or some may even dislike your idea. I actually have 0 feelings for any implementation of Jacobite rebellion, but I have positive feelings for Persia, so Iâd rather like for the devs to work on Persia over the Jacobite Rebellion. Maybe even Tatars or Kazhars, I donât know
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Itâs fine really - no problem 
. I just think Devs are not going to take request posts seriously, especially when thereâs no âmeat to the boneâ so to speak.
Why do we need Greece and what can that offer for the AoE3 timeline? What would set them apart from other Euros?
I want to know more! 
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itâs been posted in other threads what will it offer. A new mechanics, new system etc. There are many expecting Greece to come as civ or revolt, as well there are many that donât want it as a Civ. The vital point of Balkans is absolute throughout history. Whatsoever, other than that yes we shouldnât keep asking for Civs or anything. The base timeline of the game is 1492 A.D. â 1876 A.D. which is entirely into the timeline that Greece or other Balkan nations acquired Independence or they already had an identity to become such as.
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Greece is represented as a minor civ by the House of Phanar, which notably features the Greek Revolution as a Big Button.
Given Greece was controlled by the Ottomans for almost the entirety of the AOE3 timeframe, and it was a minor regional power for the rest, anything more than a minor civ or revolt is excessive, and given it is already represented by a minor house, a revolt is highly unlikely.
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I want to make clear that I donât think Greece as a civ belongs in the game (but I would love for it to be included. Such is the duality of man) BUT
Incas and Aztecs were minor civs at some point in the past.
But we have Mexico (ĂĄndale), which was controlled by the Spanish for almost the entirety of the AOE3 timeframe and was a minor regional power for the rest.
Whether or not adding Greece is justified, I think the primary difference is that Mexico, Sioux, Inca, and Aztecs all originated in the game in 2006 with TWC. Phanar was added in the most recent DLC in DE. Worldâs Edge/Forgotten Empires made a conscious decision to add an exclusively Greek minor civ. Itâs highly unlikely the DE devs would create a minor civ and then immediately remove it.
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Well, Mexico was created as a revolution by FE and was later turned into a full civ (while keeping the revolution too). I think a Greek revolt could perfectly coexist with the House of Phanar.
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No, the Miguel Hidalgo Revolution from the TWC was reskinned to Mexico in DE. Two civs have been elevated from Revs to full civs, which was a controversial decision, and it is notable that both the USA and Mexico are New World powers that had repeated conflicts with major European powers. Greece does not fit that formula. In addition, DE has not elevated any minor civs to full civs. All minor civ conversions occured with TWC.
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The original revs were extremely barebones. The Mexican revolt is like 90% new.
Indeed, thatâs why I donât think they would really qualifiy as a full-fledged civ (or at least they would be far from the best candidate for a new civ), but could perfectly work as a revolution.
What I suggest wouldnât be that different to the Barbary states rev-Berber minor civ duo we already have in the game.
So because DE hasnât elevated minor civs to full civ from now, they canât do it?
What about this formula? You people should stop gatekeeping with all your made up rules regarding which civ can or cannot be added to the game. The devs added the Maltese, so they can add whatever civ they decide. Let them take care or that.
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I donât really mind what they do with Greece - if itâs a revolt or left as Minor Civ. If they could justify it being a fully-fledged civ with some historical-backing (rather than because it was in the previous AOEs in some form or another), then fine.
However, there are so many other civs that were famous and powerful during the AOE3 timeframe, Iâm sure the Devs will be picking fairly independent civs that had more important roles and prominence (or just completely different from a med/euro civ!).
I would really love to see a proper Greek revolution for Ottomans though, so we get to see a modern version of Greece appear from the declining Ottoman Empire.
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For these same reasons I think Maltha was a mistake.
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The difference is that in reality they were empires. The only criterion they do not meet is the time period. Its existence was relatively short after the discovery of America. However, in the game they are shown as if they had survived the conquest.
How revolting from an Empire, setting up the first nation-state formula before even Germany or Italy, fighting against Egypt and Otto, having the naval Battle of Navarino accompanied by Britain and French, making major changes, helping a decline of an empire makes no major role of this timeline or sticks out of the formula of a Civ that resisted against a major Empire, exactly? I am confused. Do you even consider these? It was nearly at the same time that Mexico and USA got Indepedence actually. A revolt could be possible. Let alone the maritime or trade they excelled, they had many heroes and many historical fights and figures. Even its units could be diversed since the outfit of many of them or their name are different. Many wars happened, many Powers interfered to try to rule the region, not only the Greek one, the Balkans generally, but the trade maritime commerce that connected many regions like Egypt, was throughtout history a very vital point, thatâs why Greece had many âalliesâ which happened in different circumastances to revolve in enemies due to their interests.
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They wonât add Greece, wrong game/era.
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Greece should be at least a revolt option for Ottomans.
When DE came, there werent assets for Greece, but now they are.
Greece Independence were the same year than the end of the Mexico War of Independence.
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