Spanish CG are also affected by ballistics (for portos is all gunpowder).
But for archers/navy it won’t have an effect, since with ballistics they wouldn’t miss anyway.
forgot about that dang bonus.
yes it would. he’s talking about the projectiles actually getting to their target faster, which is a mechanic in game. it would in fact make ballistics less required for italians and be a substantial boost pre ballistics.
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Do you have any experiance ? Ballistics misses with micro, Italians with projectiles that are further faster will negate this to a degree, so it is a good bonus and not too much either
Italians Change : 30% faster projectiles from Castle age
Italians will become perfect fit on land maps too
Now you are overdoing it.
?? Overdoing what ? I’m just making sure those who are just coming in understand the topic
LOL, everybody forgot about that.
Well but instead of having a weaker ballistics before I’ll however have to research it I’ll prefer free archer armor.
Do you have any? Micro can avoid projectiles with ballistics only of you are the viper, hera or another pro, and not all of them are at this level. I mean do you play or you just watch gameplay of other.
The buff. They need a SMALL land buff. Your buffing Both land and water. They are already one of the best water civs
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30% faster is not much at all, go read about Spanish Cannon Galleons first,
get some relevant game knowledge before contesting the percentage numbers
What about this? Koreans I mean
Free armor is exactly what they need 
That only affects cannon galleons and makes cg at least decent vs other ships.
You want to give that same effect, to every ranged unit italians has. Notice the difference?
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I mean, Koreans:
- non siege military units -20% wood
- siege work shop cost 100w
Then how much faster ARE spanish CG, share your knowledge with us and just tell us your idea, instead of criticize everyone disagree with you.
Yes that is why I am not 3.6 TIMES the Projectile Speed only increasing by 20% or by 30%
Happy now @DoctBaghi, @MatCauthon3
30% faster is not much at all, SEE Spanish Cannon Galleons
My Proposition stands vindicted , Italians’ Single Change : 30% faster projectiles from Castle age
I have full faith it will make them very unique and viable on land and make GC more viable too
Except cannon galleons aren’t all that effective to start with against moving objects. Other units are.
OK fine. I bring it back down to 20% faster. Happy?
The idea stands vindicted though.
@Parthnan, I appreciate your idea but water balance matters a lot. Italians are ok on water. They are not the civ that need a water buff. But maybe you can propose this bonus for a different civ
OK then I change it to
Italians’ Single Change : Foot Archer projectiles are 30% faster from Castle age
Happy? I sure am. I would love to see this. It is especially effective on HC and GC, the units we all want to see from Italians.
And I think pros(read Daut) would love to use this against a MICRO NERD(read Lierreyy)!!
So do I have general support on this Italians’ Single Change??
This is much better. Let us see. People want to see and identity in a civ. What is the current archer bonus of Italians?
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