How balanced War Wagons of Husits?

So there is still no information about the new DLC and it will probably not be published until the end of the month (kurva nooooo), we still do not know how the Czech special unit will work.
Honestly, I’ll be disappointed if this will be just another version of Organ Guns with a weakness to cavalry.
Historically, however, this car was a bit of an OP, (husits beat big cavary armies many times) so the balance will not be easy. I would really like the “tower effect” - a crew of a maximum of three soldiers / villagers who increase the attack and hide in it. On the other hand, without the crew, the car would not be able to move or/and destruction would kill the units inside immediately. This mechanics could be well balanced, it could be fun and at the same time it would not be another generic shooting unit that does not capture the essence of this weapon in history.
(but yes, i know, it will be something like onager or someting and i will be dissappointed, just let me dream 11)

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Maybe it’s going to be a Anti-Cav unit with high Melee armour but rather low fire rate as well slow speed. Would then be countered by Arbalests and Eagle Warriors.

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if it has high meele armor, then how would eagles couner it? introducing new bonus damage?

I expect it to be a unit that resists melee units and deals well with foot units but its weak against siege.

Kinda like Organ GUns

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Eagles already get bonus damage against siege so that shouldn’t be a problem.

I guess these wagons are weak against Mangonel
(it would be fairly interesting if scorpions have bonus dmg against them)

It will be like a cobra car, ram but shooting iron balls with bonus vs horses.

They didn’t leak balance design like with the lords of the wets to prevent trash talking in forums, but i can guarantee you, the 2 new civs and its unit either will be completely OP or UP like the sergeant.

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But it is a wooden wagon, it should not be countered by arbalest either…

I think it will be a very expensive and slow unit with high melee and pierce armor

Pack and unpack bombard tower maybe? The unit has guns on all sides like a bombard tower.

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Perhaps maybe make them powerful units, but just very costly to make? Something like 170 wood, and 70 gold per-unit. So, they like gunpowder War Elephants. War Elephants are awesome units, just costly to make. Or maybe make them cost the same as an Onager. Wood 160, Gold 135.

The unit then would be hard to mass outside of team games like 4v4 black forest/michi etc. In these games you need trade to mass them.

Redemption-blockprinting monks should also counter them.

Probably Minimum Ränge, so its vulnerable If melee gets Close enough

Pretty sure it will be slow moving, highly armoured anti-cav.
So maybe infantry can be a good counter if they are able to close in to them and archery could possibly poke it, but very slowly.

Can’t wait for @HealFortress to post some hussite wagon forts in his battle tactics thread :smiley: .

lol, I’ll consider it