Dude don’t circumvent the forum’s language filter. There is literally no need to do that. If you don’t want your words censored, pick a different word. We can figure out the context with you doing that.
There are kids that come on these forums and should serve as a place for younger audiences to come to and their parental figures should not have to worry about someone doing such things.
This is a super basic example of one of the core problems with language filters; there are a near infinite number of ways for people to get around them.
Ideally you can foster a community where it’s not a problem to begin with.
EDIT: And people get crazy creative with bypassing filters too.
Oh no, a kid on the Internet might see the word ■■■■! What a catastrophe.
Censorship is bull$hit, and parents who worry about their kids seeing the word “$hit” on the Internet suck at parenting. Knock it off with that puritan nonsense. Show your kid a Veggie Tales DVD and let the rest of us be normal humans FFS.
I don’t really understand curse words anyway. Poop means ■■■■ and vise versa. Either way, it should not prevent others from being able to turn it off.
Well, it’s not really on you to decide what a child see’s or doesn’t see. For a company, protecting what a child sees may mean another sale-- a future consumer-- that is based on how the parents see the product.
But be an adult and find an alternative way to discuss strategy, at least until the filter is eased up a bit.
While you may not agree with censorship-- you have no real right to just say what you want on someone else’s platform.
You don’t have free speech on someone elses platform. You need to go to your town square/City Council/Chamber of Commerce/Email your Senator for that.
Dude. No one is injured by viewing the word “shit.” Relax.
What this board really needs is the ability to block people. Let people block those who annoy them; don’t force everyone to abide by the absurd rules of a broken algorithm combined with 1950s-era American TV broadcast standards.
(I would definitely block people who hurl passive-aggressive insults like “be an adult,” for instance. But that’s just me, an adult on the Internet.)
I never said anything like that? In what world would you assume that? Dude-- its pretty simple. This isn’t Reddit- it’s not steam, and it isn’t your friend group. Who are you to judge someone because they do try to respect the forums or who isn’t keen on being around foul language? Don’t get me wrong, I swear often online, but not on here.
Nothing sabotages a healthy conversation like rudeness:
These are not concrete terms with precise definitions — avoid even the appearance of any of these things. If you’re unsure, ask yourself how you would feel if your post was featured on the front page of the New York Times.
Yes we do. It’s a paid product and the chat is one of its features.
Being able to communicate is important in team game with randoms. The current censorship and delay makes everything other than the end-GG a chore.
And when playing with friends it is just patronizing adults, which is unacceptable. Don’t tell me how my friends and I are supposed to talk to each other. I paid for a game to play it, not to be lectured by it.
Don’t tell me it is done because of the kids and those few feeble spined adults who start shaking when they read f****** c***. It was the most accessible and cheap solution for them to just run with a existing, service based censoring solution (Send your word salad over to some third party server, purify it in the name of US prudity, then send it back).
Anything more robust and practical for the end user would cost more resources (as in manpower, brainpower, time and therefore money).
Nothing will “ease up” since they have no control over that third party system. It would have to go up and down the the levels of bureaucracy. And at some point along that way, someone blocks it because it is not feasible to adjust it just for AOE4’s needs. Post launch, mind you. When people already “accepted” the current system by buying the product.
They should’ve just shipped it with the right tools for every user to decide for themselves:
Let us mute players and opt in/out of a simplified (simple lookup for n-words, f-bombs, etc. Like in this forum) as well as extended (the current mind-policing s***show) chat filter. Allow parents to lock those options with password protection so little jimmy can’t just go into the options menu and get his gore/slurs/tiddies back.
Everybody would be happy about such a solution. No pissed customers. Everybody wins. World peace achieved. *US anthem playing
And you can chat. And still no, you dont have that right. Just because you buy a ticket to a theme park, doesn’t give you some magic right to be there.
That isn’t up to you if it is or isn’t, but I’d be curious to know what a chat filter is for, to you. I am not saying the chat filter isn’t to strict or missing features. My response is mainly saying not to circumvent the forum filters, on the forum. Using $ etc to bypass that. – but iirc they are aware the filter is to strict in game- so I would imagine they are going to try and resolve it.
But you make valid points and other wild guesses. If you think it won’t ease up at all, then it’s moot to even say anything.
It’s a feature of the product and does not do what it is supposed to do smoothly. For being a simple text chat, it does its best to be an inconvenience.
That opens it up to being criticized. This has nothing to do with “rights” as in “freedom of speech”. I don’t know why you would interpret wanting a feature to be more usable and closer to established standards as some kind of “privilege” talk.
Just technically being able to chat doesn’t make it a good chat. Do you not have standards for anything?
I agree- I do have standards-- when I brought up rights I said:
Which is true, it’s not our servers and they can lay the terms in which we use the service esp online.
Of course we can critique the service. My main point is that homie was circumventing the forums language filter.
And, in game, until it was fixed he can find alternative methods of communication or essentially use different words to get his messages across.
But you say:
Then you say:
I’m actually done discussing this.
The bottom line I was making earlier is that you shouldn’t circumvent the forum’s filter (not in game)
And also until it is fixed, while we should discuss it, we can also use different forms of communication or different words to get our point across.
Be easy, man. This conversation isnt really making a decent counterpoint to what I was saying.
No one cares about “healthy conversation”. Smack talking is an enjoyable aspect of gaming. Players should be able to toggle censorship.
You guys have to know that most players in this game are CHINESE… In fact, I believe CHINESE player are almost the 50% of all players!
You will see lots of Chinese Character names. But imagine, not all Chinese people use Chinese character names… So why the censored? Becaue of the game being able to run in China. And over there are lots of censored.
I block anyone with a name i can’t read.
Why is this such a difficult topic?
In every game ever that I’ve ever played with a chat filter, there has always been an option to disable chat filters.
I understand having filters default and I also understand not allowing the option in other countries with more stringent censorship like China as mentioned by other posted above, but in America especially this is incredibly insulting, trying to tell grown Americans that we are not allowed to use certain words and not allowed to toggle the filter is insulting, especially when we are all used to ■■■■ talking each other in-game, I mean spamming wololos and explicit messages is an aoe pastime!
This is just a problem with the executive design choices for the game tbh, it’s like they wanted to give us as few options as humanly possibly (likely to release them later in DLCs like they’re some sort of revelation)
To be honest parents should never leave children unattended on the internet.