Swedes require two cards:
Contract (to unlock + get a bunch) which is excellent value unit shipment, even aside from the unlocking.
GMC’s to upgrade them, 25% each stat
Germany requires four cards:
Advanced ####### ####### get this for free in age 2)
Improved mercenaries (5% worse on both stats for Germany, but available an age earlier)
Mercenary camps (to unlock and still you have to build a separate building instead of just get it in the barracks like Sweden)
Grenade Launchers (to unlock Incindiary grenades at arsenal, sweden has this by default)
(damage, hp, speed, bayonet, incindiary grenades all effect them in arsenal)
(imperial age-up should be mercenary contractor for both civs)
But here’s the real piece of data:
Sweden can INSTATRAIN them Russia-style (in Imperial age) because they’re affected by engineering school, which Germany doesn’t have. This is a really, really big deal, because even with the church tech and fencing school on Germany, they still take forever to train.
^ Just posting all this for informative purposes, been messing with them over the last few days a fair bit.
I don’t think they’re OP. They’re population efficient units. but they’re not cost efficient units. They’re like a much-less-bad original Cuirasser, in that they’re very scary to face down, but they are a very expensive thing to face down their counters with. In the olden days, I remember many French players in treaty games throwing hordes of Cuirassers into my Jinetes, not understanding how they weren’t winning. Eventually, their economy broke before mine was touched and they’d fall down. I feel like the Giant Grenadiers are similar in this circumstance but much less threatening as cannons can mow them down with absolute impunity. Light Cannons and Flaming Arrows are next-level at destroying them particularly.
10,000 gold buys you 40. Two moderately well placed cannon volleys can cost you 10,000 gold. It’s not sustainable.
In small numbers (non-treaty) I have had my arse handed to me soundly by an AI using cassadores vs me testing out the grenadiers on Sweden. Was expecting to be able to close up and blow them away but got quite an education on the matter.
I think they’re fine. It’s a high risk high reward unit. It’s devastating to the player who doesn’t counter it, but also devastating to the user when countered.
NOTE TO FORUM MODS: How is putting the word “Sweden” after the word “Arsenal” tripping the profanity filter?