Yes, by that logic V&V was a great DLC boosting player count so much in March 2024. The DLC has zero multiplayer content.
Notably absence of boost is Rome DLC, which is basically AOE1 with no AOE2 single-player content.
The boosts don’t support the narrative that the gains are multi-player at all.
In fact, SteamDB has graphics view for much longer term. What I’m really seeing is that DLC boosts are quite modest across the board.
Any substantial new content DLC could have boosted the players. So why would the devs put out something so divisive among engaged players is beyond me.
Actually yes, let’s have a vote. Let’s have a vote for anyone who cares, just like anyone can vote for ranked maps.
And those 53% are only 53% of those who purchased the DLC and wrote a review about the recommendation of the DLC, not about the ranked play, with the majority of positive reviews only praising the campaigns anyway.
It should also be noted that most of the people who have issues with the DLC wouldn’t buy it. So using that as a metric for voting is extremely misleading and more biased towards the minority that bought the DLC in contrast with the majority who only have the base game.
Quote the post where I said this. I haven’t accused anyone of racism, the idea that I would do so on a forum discussion is utterly ridiculous. And if I did, report that, like I am doing so to you for accusing me of calling you a racist.
Most people don’t write reviews. The vocal minority is all you see in reviews, period. As long as those skew positive that’s a very good sign and you regurgitating that same argument that it’s somehow a bad thing is really telling.
I just want to update you that while the DLC skews positive, the overall reviews for the base game have skewed overwhelmingly positive since the release, so I mean, doesn’t seem like widespread backlash to me. Seems pretty limited.
Or maybe the silent majority does not like it and did not give it a review at all. The game had 96% positive reviews, but a dlc only has 53%. Something is fishy, but some delululu people will not be able to sleep unless they got into a full denial mode. 53% positive rating is extremely low for a DLC like this. Reddit dislikes it, steam has 5 times more upvotes on negative reviews than on positive ones, forums complain about it, even pro players are not happy. But we are all the vocal minority, right…
Like there was a 100x larger silent majority lurking around and all of them follow some strictly enforced silence, so that 3K cannot even win the reddit argument (V&V won, mind you guys)
I already did. Go look again. But if you don’t want to, here is the text you wrote:
“Are you insinuating that none of those civs had any meaningful history before that time that we might want to flesh out, ever?”
So you are projecting onto me the thought that other civilizations have no meaningful history. So… you’re treating me like I’m racist.
But I don’t really care as that’s not the topic of discussion. I’m still waiting to hear what makes the Three Kingdoms acceptable for this game. Why is adding fake countries a good idea? I’ve asked you this multiple times and you keep deflecting with nonsense.
the overall reviews for the base game have skewed overwhelmingly positive since the release, so I mean, doesn’t seem like widespread backlash to me. Seems pretty limited.
Exactly
Which just shows that the DLC is not hindering the vast majority from enjoying this game as usual…
False equivalence here. 53% are NOT people who really want 3K in ranked. Many would not care.
In fact if you actually read their reviews, many gave upvote despite raising questionable aspects that resonates with the complaints you see both here and everywhere.
Translation: Feels like American Chinese food, edible but feels odd (). I understand players who gave downvotes. However, there is a lot of content in this update (DLC), much better than that campaign DLC (we all know which one).
A lot of terrains have been added. [The last sentence doesn’t make too much sense in the context, but says something like bring more campaign content for Chinese players?]
Translation: Hard to believe that a game simultaneously have Wei, Shu, Wu, and Chinese civilizations simultaneously. Are Wei, Shu, Wu not Chinese? It’s unbelievable. For a China-based DLC, there are many civs that could be created, including Xianbei, Xiongnu, Di?, ??. Bodpa (Tibetan), Uyghurs, Dali, Tanguts etc etc, but you chose Wei Shu Wu, and I have no idea what you are thinking about. Moreover, this DLC also mix up civilizations, giving Khitan Tanguts unit (Poxi Camel) and castle (Kara-Khoto). This is very scary. I think the devs has thin respect for Chinese culture (this sentence is said in a weird way).
I think you at least have to add Tanguts, and also make up the campaigns for Chinese and some other civs. In terms of other related civs, I wish you ask your self with good conscience: what do the players actually want?
[Did this dude press the wrong button? Hilarious though.]
There are quite a few kind people that believe they could offer moderate criticism to help WE improve, and still didn’t want to leave a negative. It was not their fault. It was WE who was exploiting those good wills
That is an absurd conclusion to draw. I didn’t call you a racist, it’s not even a statement that indicates race. It’s a question as to whether you think the Huns, the Romans, etc. (the civs you personally selected as being indicative of the early time periods set for AOE2) have any meaningful history we might want to flesh out that dates before your hand-picked cutoff point, which would necessitate pushing beyond your early date limit if we did. It has absolutely nothing to do with my assertion of your assessment or evaluation of history
What an absolutely bastardized take on what I actually said. Why would I argue in good faith with someone who’s going to read whatever I say and ask “Is he calling me a racist?” Like, what the actual hell.
Here’s the post you’re insinuating I’m calling you a racist.
I left a poll but that seems excessive to make the point so I removed it. Long story short, didn’t call you a racist, didn’t suggest racism, didn’t even talk about race with you, and a sensible person would apologize for saying something so completely out of left field to anyone.