HRE Bugs

  • Ok, I can confirm that the mace upgrade does not slow attack speed anymore, but only gives +3 vs heavy if combined with Twohander, which gives 2 damage to MAA. This is ridiculous as honed blades from the Dehli give +3 attack for knights and MAA. So one tech of Dehli is better than the core maa techs for the HRE. And it also improves knights as well. This is trash for the HRE in comparison.

  • The HRE also still doesn’t have a Coat of Arms. What the hell?

  • Inspiration doesn’t seem to bug out anymore. At least it hasn’t happend to me yet. It still might be buggy. But most importantly the mechanic for the army still is utter trash and useless. You need so many Prelates to have inspiration do a little bit. Then you have a few soldiers inspired. And as the battle commences, the buff is almost over already. This is the same ■■■■ mechanic as in the beta. Slow and weak Prelates at the front line. Thanks for nothing, Relic. Maybe they change it sometime in the future, but why let it be so useless at all? This will never be used. It’s way too expensive and useless. Edit: Okay, it still seems to bug out. The tool tip when clicking on a Prelate also says inspiration gives +5 armor, which is also wrong. Maybe it’s a language thing as I didn’t install the game in English but in German, but I think I also had this bug during beta.

  • The Aachen Chapel does not work for Military units, doesn’t inspire them.

  • The Regnitz Chapel still says 300 gold/min although there are 3 Relics inside. I dunno if that landmark is bugged or the tooltip. Something is off here.

  • The HRE still has the useless Benediction tech, the lackluster building techs, the inferior infantry upgrades…

The civ was fixed in some regards, but still is trash in regards of uniqueness and mechanic. It’s the most boring civ that only has a good economy, but other than that is pretty damn baseline and lackluster. The Prelate gameplay also gets confusing as you can’t double click them if you really wanna use a few for military and a few for eco. You would move them all and that is annoying. So you need to carefully pick the Prelates and group them up. Some of them also get lost every now and then because the all army command and search for idle military is rather useless for them. They are rather annoying to use in general. For eco purposes they are strong. For military purposes they are a liability and die quickly as they are as weak as any standard monk. The Rus and the Dehli have better monk gameplay and the Abbasids offer an always active aura for their Infantry. The HRE seems to be inferior in every regard. The only really good tech they have is the 10% movement speed for infantry. The rest is so very inferior to the techs of the other civs, it is not even funny. Nothing for cav, 2 inf upgrades that gets beaten by the Dehli with one upgrade that also improves knights. You would never know that the HRE was the greatest plate manufacturer of its time because they have not a single tech or unit that shows this.

And do not let me start with the Landsknecht. He is in the same state as he was in the beta, ends up with 104 hp fully upgraded and dies to every fart. Useless. You need to be brain dead to lose to this unit. They are 60 food and 100 gold and just vanish. It is like eating the softest veal that just melts on your tongue and you do not even have to chew it.

It’s just wow how far behind this civ is in comparison to the rest. I still don’t get it that mace + twohander tech are inferior to 50% of the honed blade tech of Dehli. Why 50%? Because the other 50% of the tech actually also improve knights.

Hi, my name is HRE and I muster the worst knights in the game. My knights are worse than chinese, mongolian, rusian, french, indian and arabic knights/lancers, because historically I didn’t even know what a knight is. So I should be glad that I can build them at all, right?

The HRE has nothing to do with the HRE. Nothing about it is right. Esp the Landsknecht is kinda the exact opposite of what he actually was. He was the core of the army and mainly used pikes and poleaxes. In the game, however, he is a auxiliary softy who barely gets a hit in before he dies. Unless the opponent doesn’t know anything about the game and how to counter the Landsknecht. A Camel archer three shots the Landsknecht. Thank you very much, Relic.

I know that balancing is about to begin only now. But I am still pissed off. The whole direction of this civ is utter trash.

If this civ was nerfed for their eco, even the most reluctant person would understand how underwhelming, boring and inferior the HRE is in comparison. The least unique civ by a long shot.

Edit: Oh wow, okay… So I will wait until my Prelate also breaks. I thought it was fixed, but maybe was just made less bad… ■■■■■■■■, this civ is trash.

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