I made this post on reddit, but since it is a very interesting discussion I decided to port it over here.
With the recent Dynasties of India DLC, it feels weird to me that the South-East Asian civs don’t get both the Elephant Archer and Siege Elephant… specially the Khmer/Burmese who are both classified as an Elephant Civ.
Considering that, what changes would you personally make to add the Elephant Archers and Siege Elephants to them whilst keeping them fun and balanced?
I might create a Mod with some of the ideas so we can try out for ourselves how it would play and feel.
DISCLAIMER: This is mostly for the fun of theorizing, I know it would require massive changes to actually add said units to said civs whilst keeping them balanced within Pro AoE2.
Here is my take:
Khmer:
Can train Elephant Archer & Elite.
Can train Armored & Siege Elephant.
Lose Husbandry
Battle Elephants move +10% faster -> Elephant Units move 12/24% faster in Castle/Imperial Age.
Ballista Elephant speed reduced by 10% (compensate for new bonus)
Lose Ram-line.
Lose Cav-Archer line.
Tusk Swords: Battle Elephants +3 Attack -> Armored & Battle Elephants +2 Attack
Tusk Swords cost reduced from 300w/450g -> 250w/325g
Malay:
Can train Elephant Archer, no Elite.
Can train Armored Elephant, no Siege.
Battle Elephants are 30% cheaper in the Castle Age, 40% cheaper in the Imperial Age -> Elephant Units are 25% cheaper in the Castle Age, 40% cheaper in the Imperial Age
Lose Ram-line.
Lose Cav-Archer line.
Burmese:
Can train Elephant Archer & Elite.
Can train Armored & Siege Elephant.
Battle Elephants +1/+1 armor -> Elephant Units +1/+1 Armor.
Howdah: Battle Elephants +1/+1 armor -> Elephant Units +1/+1 Armor.
Lose Ram-line.
Lose Cav-Archer line.
Vietnamese:
Can train Elephant Archer & Elite.
Can train Armored Elephant, no Siege.
Chatras: Battle Elephants +100 HP -> Armored & Battle Elephants +100 HP.
Lose Ram-line.
Lose Cav-Archer line.
Secondary to the main points, but I would love to see the following:
Hindustanis:
Can train Elephant Archer, no Elite.
Can train Battle Elephant, no Elite.
Gurjaras:
Can train Battle Elephant, no Elite.