It’s a vital unit on water, without it assaulting a fortified coast is suicide. The Romans had a great navy and were quite innovative, if Goths and Huns have it, they most likely will.
Or bring back the catapult trireme from AOE1.
How would you represent Rome in Alaric and Attila?
The Huns no longer have it. Not sure about the Goths.
The Goths have it, the Cumans is the 5th civ (with the Huns and Meso civs) not to have it.
Huns and Cumans is in no small part for being centered on the steppe with zero navy (at least the Mongols tried to invade Japan).
From 330 to 476, when Western Rome and Byzantium existed as separate nations, they went to war against each other a number of times. Western Rome also existed alongside and conflicted with Franks Visigoths and Ostrogoths (who, depending on how you look at them, could be feudal Spanish and Italian as much as they are Goths). I say, BRING IT ON!
I’m starting to get sick of this.
Chinese never call themselves Chinese. Germans never call themselves German. Welsh never call themselves Welsh. Japanese never call themselves Japanese. Berbers never call themselves Berber. Egyptians never call themselves Egyptian. Ottomans never call themselves Ottoman. People don’t go around correcting everyone about these whenever possible as if exonym and endonym is a new discovery. It’s even more normal to refer to historical states with the most “convenient” name in any language.
But “hey do you know Byzantines actually called themselves Romans?”
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Now I get Legion Roman and Cataphract Roman.
What is that? You renamed all AoE2 civs to modern counterparts according to your preference?
No, it’s a full-fledged new game set in the modern era. Its gameplay is greatly similar to AoE2, with significant alterations. It’s just a concept, though. I’m carrying over some bonuses from AoE2 to their modern counterparts, or even different civs entirely.
Is it in your mind only?
No, I have a Google Doc outlining it. I’m not going to share it, though, as it is under my real name, which is privileged information.
Then I guess there isn’t any point discussing it here.
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I didn’t want to talk about it in-depth anyway.
It’s about time to bring any kind of long range ship (balita ship, catapult ship, whatever) to use for Civs that don’t have gunpowder.
The odd cannon galeon is always strange.
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There are a few Unity and Unreal tutorials out there. Why don’t you give it a try?
I agree, I definitely do not want Romans as a civilization in common play. Custom scenarios and stuff I’d be fine with.
The main problem with anachronisms is not about being completely realistic, it’s about maintaining the suspension of disbelief. I’m pretty certain that’s why everyone is perfectly okay with the Huns or the Goths existing, because nobody has any idea when they actually existed anyway.
By contrast, pretty much everybody knows when the Roman Empire fell. To me, having Roman legionnaires fighting French paladins is about as realistic as giving the Slavs AK-47s instead of arqubuses, and just as annoying.
To be perfectly honest, if I was faced with being forced to play against romans, it would significantly diminish my desire to play this game at all. I would far rather have a DLC that a few people don’t buy, than a whole game that a significant number of people no longer play.
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Exactly, and imagine Romans vs Byzantines. Aka Ancient Romans vs Medieval Romans.
That would be a Late Roman Empire conflict when an eastern emperor and a western emperor fought. Happened quite a lot under Constantine and his sons, or when Theodosius overthrew the western emperor in the first scenario of Alaric.
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I’m sure the AoE 2 Romans will be the split WRE, so West vs East Romans.
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That would be the Franks. The Holy Roman Empire began with the crowning of Charlemagne, the Frankish king, as the Roman Emperor.