i played a few games i still yet to figure out how to beat this combo. seriously pike+ cav would be nice, but i cant make that combo myself. pike alone is not going to kill the cav because chinese pike is too weak, if they have skirms behind, like strelet, otontin etc. what i need is anti cav + heavy cav. I do not need chu ko nu because my CKN arrows wont land on opponent skirm but they just get absorbed by frontline cavs. So anti cav I can go Ming army, which is pike+ keshik, then I need a answer to skirm which is my own cav, steppe rider, then in order to make steppe riders I have to make chu ko nu, actually more than half of my resouces for standard army have to go to chu ko nu, which I dont need at all. Also my steppe as frontline cav will die to other cavs because steppe is weaker, probably the weakest cav, they die to hussar, cossak, coyote very hard, so they have to get on top of opponent skirms. What unit combo should I use? How to avoid producing chu ko nu when I dont need them? 2 out of 3 army China can make in age2 involves a lot of chu ko nu, which means opponent can spam cav and beat me because my anti cav number is low. But then if i make old han + Ming army, then 3 quarters of my army is anti cav which is too much, they die to skirms. So how can I control the ratio of units to be produced when playing china?
If I’m not mistaken, China, through a card, manages to release a banner army of keshiks and steppe riders.
ok maybe i should go full mongol
it does not need a card, keshik+steppe banner is available in age2 castle.
China also has 2 card that each give 1 castle wagon
i tried another game even mongol army doesnt beat coyote + otontins, coyote just delete my steppe too fast before keshik can kill coyote. how does china deal with aztec rush in general? Maybe mongol army can beat cossack+ strelet i see
out mass xbow/pike + standard army and out kill, defend with russian blockhouse + boxer rebellion
as china dont ever take a fight if you are equal in numbers or even greater numbers, you must have equal pop (remember that steppe and keshik are 1 pop) or better.
I was massing that but with this combo chu ko nu make up too big a proportion of my army. So when tbe frontline meatshield doe out i cannot replace them because they still need to be made in batches. So my army just ends up with a large portion of chu ko nu, then a cav switch can easily clean me up. How ever i cannot stop making chu ko nu when i don’t need it. For example i need more steppe but the standard army is 3 CKN and only 2 steppe, so i cannot kill his skirms.
Think that bow/pike is 50% bow 50% pike, 3+3. Then standard army is 3 CKN + 2 cav. So if i make these 2, i will have 6 CKN, 3 pike, 2 steppe. So more than 50% of my army composition is bows and less than 1/5 of my army is anti cav, a weak anti cav. My opponent lost the first fight and lost his forward base, then decided to go full cav and ended up clean me up because my army had so many CKNs.
if you already thought ahead like that you can already make the counterplay beforehand right?
then make some mongol or ming army in preparation for the cav switch, or even just go german or british consulate for a batch of musk or dopps, or even the 10 rattan shield shipment ready to fire.
its not like you are in a situation where you are completely pop capped at 220 and are unable to switch in anyway whatsoever
the game will change depending on what you do so you can always make new decisions. as long as you win the fights and are able to pressure them and take of them their resouces, what are they going to do?
You can do it yourself ‘standard army’, Steppe riders and CCN.
Well regardless Cav+skirm has a weakness; Cavalry and archers/skirms do poorly against walls and forifications like outposts and castles.
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not only castles but also in the Blockhouse from the Russian consulate so you can make both normal army and double cav depending on what you need. This can also be upgraded to vet in age3 with Bejing army.
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