If we should be lucky enough to get DLCs after Dawn of the Dukes, I hope Forgotten Empires will venture outside of Europe

The problem is that they are really disconected and the conections with the Andeans are tenous at best. However yeah I have little problem with adding them later

Adding isolated civilizations would be a worst choice than adding huns.

Last thing we want is to make this a civilization game.

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Italians would like a word with you. As would Japanese. Not sure how you get Spanish of all civs as a top 5 water civ

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Ok, but you have to admit they have a really strong navy.

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They do, and its arguably top 10, but i’d put them behind Italians, Vikings, Portuguese, Byzantines, Japanese, and Koreans at the minimum.

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I think a DLC containing civs from different regions of the world (similar to Forgotten Empires) might be a good idea.

5 new civs:

  • 2 civs from the Americas - Muisca and Mississippian
  • 2 civs from Africa - Congolese and Zimbabwe
  • 1 civs from Asia - Siamese

Of course, that wouldn’t mean abandoning other regions of the world and quitting doing DLC. It would just be a DLC adding the most missing civs from around the world. Later, Caucasus DLC, Asian DLC, Africa DLC, American natives DLC etc. could be released.

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I would rather get a Caucasus DLC than any of that though. All of those regions have at least some representation already. Caucasus, pretty much none

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How’s Central/South Africa and North America represented exactly? We have 3 civs in Africa and 3 in the Americas while Europe is like 17+1 (including Cumans) civs already.

Sure, getting some Caucasian civs would be nice, but I just want to put some perspective on where the devs should actually focus on getting more civs.

With the exception of getting a few Indian civs, I think Eurasia as a whole is done.

The lack of African/American civs is glaring.

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There are basically only a few civ slots left, before we reach the game engine limit.

North America had very little interaction with the rest of the world in the given time-frame, so probably it’s just difficult, if at all possible to find any relevant civs to add.

But, you are definitely making a good point, we only have 3 American civs. I would not mind adding some more American civs to the game, but I think they’d have to be related to the ones we already have. (maybe make Chanka or Tlaxcala a new civ)

As for Africa, we basically have some civs, Berbers, Saracens (to represent Egypt for example), and Malians and Ethiopians. So while 4 is not a lot, it’s not too bad either.

As for Caucasus, at the moment, basically null. Nothing.

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I think Hausa is a better choice.

Just to put some perspective:

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Sure. Greenland is also bigger than a lot of the areas the current civs occupied, but no one will think that adding the few inuit that lived there should be a priority.

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So all African empires=Hunter gatherer people? That’s a ridiculous comparison if I’ve ever seen one.

The Inuit actually successfully fought against the Vikings and Sandy Petersen, former Ensemble dev, definitely considered them to be cool for that :slight_smile:

Africa had a wide variety of different society types, going from hunter gatherers to city states to in the European term what would be considered Empires.

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huge difference though - Africa had more then a few people. so did India.

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I meant that you showed how large the continent is, just the size of a place doesn’t make it inherently interesting.

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this is very true, but India and Africa both have lots of history worth exploring.

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Someone even made some African campaigns featuring some of the civs which could be included in the game, so that Malians actually have some more civs to interact with:

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Certainly. I would like a second civ (maybe even 3rd) added into the current region that indians civ currently covers.

I’d also like some Caucasus civs (maybe 3) to be added.

And definitely 2-3 more from the Americas

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To represent everyone in the world in a fair manner (everyone at the same level of detail):

Africa deserves equal number of civs as Europe.

Asia needs thrice the number of civs in Europe. Oceania needs one civ.

America needs half-equal the number of civs in Europe.

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#1 This is from 2015 not medieval times
#2 We aren’t adding civs based on how much their population was


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