Weird to know that you think HCA is not a good unit and think Mangudai is too OP in another thread. Tatar HCA pwned Mangudai and does not even need a castle to produce.
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I think ca is a good unit but hca is not enough for imperial. Mangudai has 23 frame delay hca has 45.
Mangudai has 0.5 attack delay and hca has 0.88 attack delay, mangudai has bonus etc.
@icicle83 that is why i say, hcs upgrade is not enough to be a backbone for an imperial army. Ca is better backbone for a castle age battles but main duty of hc is hit and run while hca have to be backbone in imperial battles.
@SirWiedreich I think hca upgrade should be lower too, like 700 food 400 gold.
I think HCA fills this role pretty well, at least I like to use the unit.
The upgrade cost is justified in my opinion since it always pertains to a very large number of units (either you mass CA, or you donāt use them at all) that are hard to kill by the opponent (ranged unit that can choose not to take unfavorable fights).
HCA+Hussar is just a great combination for imp once all the upgrades are in, especially for civs with boni for both, such as Turks, Tatars, Magyars, Mongolsā¦ but even for Saracens itās not a bad combo for the late game.
The only civ where HCA is good on paper, but I somehow never really tech into it are the Japanese.
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Cav archer is already is the best late game unit. Much better stats than arb (not even speaking of mobility). Melee units have second imp upgrades because the units donāt scale to well into late imp (at least paladin), they need to be replaced fast so youāll burn through your gold.
Thereās a reason not a lot of civs have FU cav archer while a lot have FU arbs.
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Yeah lets give the best CA civs in the game another buffs to their CA.
Magyars have +1 attack +1 range on top of FU HCA. A new steppe civ with Imperial CA that has +1 attack +10 HP will be balanced. But neither of the existing should get it.
First, why you need a new unit for an effect that could be accomplished with a unique tech?
Second, as UT it would be just a cross-breed of Recurve Bow and Sipahi.
Third, why we need yet an additional steppe civ with HCA/Hussar as imperial composition? There are plenty alreadyā¦
I donāt. But having another look for CA will be cool.
Thatās why it wonāt be UT.
Canāt speak on behalf of āusā. Because I want more civsā¦in general. Iām not asking an Steppe/Central Asia/ Western China DLC right now. They can wait. But if we get one, it will be another CA+LC/Cavalry civ.