Indians are the most grouped up civ of radically different cultures and must be broken down first, waay before Slavs or Native Americans, and there are all these civilizations, which individually had a much higher GDP than any European civilization until the 16th century.
And Indians must be broken down into:
- Afghans (Modern day Northern Pakistan and Afghanistan, Everything North of “Indians” below)
- Indians (Delhi Sultanate+Rajputs, Modern day Indus and Gangetic Plains)
- Marathas (Modern day Central India)
- Oriyas (Modern day Central East India)
- Palas/Bengalis (Pala Empire, Modern day Bengal+Bangladesh+Assam)
- Kannads (Vijayanagara Empire, Modern day SW India)
- Tamils (Chola Empire, Modern day SE India)
- Sinhalese (Theravada Buddhist Empire in Sri Lanka (similar to Burmese))
Each of these were always completely independent and completely different ethnicities, with their own empires and foreign relations. Infact Palas were allied with Chinese, Tamils were occupying Malacca, etc etc
And again, each of these had a population(and still has population) and GDP atleast 20x what the already existing civilizations Portugese, Goths or Celts represent.
Remember, the AoC developer himself said, that Indians shouldn’t have been one civilization, but could have been 8. And in its own expansion pack.
Those above are the 8, I can assure you, as I am knowlegeable in South Asian history. Unlike most here in these forums.
The Civilization designer for AoC himself said, that Indians should never have been one civilization, but 8 civilizations , reflecting the true vast scale, size and history. In its own expansion pack, and for good reason. He himself was a European saying this.
And he didn’t mention anything about breaking down the Slavs or even the Chinese.
What the game and most people are unfortunately doing is, looking at medieval civilizations from the prism of today’s countries.
So If India and China are one country respectively , they deserve only one civilzation. etc etc. And this is a tragedy.
The Chinese still got 4 (and 3 from AoC days) civilizations to represent their ethnic groups:
, Mongols ( Inner Mongolia Province and Yuan dynasty )
, Koreans ( NE china, Heilongjiang Province )
and Tatars ( Xinjiang Province, Western China )
So it is the Indians who really need Division the most. It is very clear and the AoC history advisor and developer clearly stated this.