In this news we see dlc name is knight of cross and rose so i searched knights of rose and find some fantasy book.Is this a real thing or someone in the dev team read that and thought it was real? Im ok with knight of cross since they are crusader state that existed on real world and history.
The Wars of the Roses were a series of civil wars fought in England between two rival branches of the royal family: the House of Lancaster (represented by a red rose) and the House of York (represented by a white rose). These wars were fought over who should be the king of England. The conflict ended when Henry Tudor of the Lancaster family defeated Richard III of the York family at the Battle of Bosworth Field in 1485, becoming King Henry VII.
The Wars of the Roses were a series of battles fought in England during the 15th century. These wars were between two powerful families, the House of Lancaster and the House of York. Both families were fighting over who should be the king of England. The name âWars of the Rosesâ comes from the symbols used by these families: the red rose for Lancaster and the white rose for York.
Given that Campaign and civs added were independent from each other in the last DLC, it looks as if the campaign will be about the War of the Roses maybe? And as a civ weâll get the Crusader States
As it is written, it does not say the word âOrderâ, so it is an allegory of something, not an order of chivalry. I suppose it is like " Sultans Ascend", the name of the DLC was to refer to the campaign, where Islamic sultans participated as protagonists against the crusaders.
Searching on the internet about the specific name, I find:
1.- Knight Order of a fiction book franchise.
2.- A Protestant Masonic order of the 18th century
3.- Some flags of Protestant movements of the 16th century.
I donât think it is any of the 3.
I think it could be more like many of you say, "THE WAR OF THE ROSES".
I suppose it would be a good opportunity to play with the English in the Post-Imperial Age, where in their first campaign you spend it either in the feudal or castle age.
Yeah, Itâs most likely.
Because if we consider civilizations from the previous DLC, we had: Japanese, Byzantines, Order of the Dragon, JoanDArc, ZhuXi, Ayyubid.
And the only civ that participated in the campaign was Ayyubid, although with a different design.
What worries me the most is that:
It seems like itâs not Relic anymore that is in charge of the dev, but World Edge⊠Unlike the Sultanâs Ascend DLC that was made by relic.
Iâm worried they will move away from the original design, and make it more like Age of Mythology (which I really donât like).
Hopefully they can make the design of new civs as good as Relic.
Knight of Cross and Roses, makes me think of House of Tudor.
Itâs a bit late middle age though, but the cross is basically the flag of England, the rose is the faction.
Also, I donât think âCrossâ refers to crusaders. I really just think the cross is referring to England.
Do you have source on that Relic isnât part of AoE4 anymore?
No official source, but we see World Edge everywhere on the DLC announcement, and no mention of Relics.
One thing that struck me as odd was the phrase âhistory inspiredâ that they used. This should go without saying, but that they felt the need to point it out makes me wonder if they want to push the envelope from what we expect.
About the Protestant. I think the promotional picture is displaying a Finnish flag lol
Another point in favour of that idea is that Relic is rumoured to be busy with Dawn of War 4.
But a point against that theory (and a pretty big one, IMO) is that their announcements usually work that way. Worldâs Edge is the Point Man for the Age of Empires franchise. They always talk about themselves, and rarely mention their partners by name, except when itâs something big like âweâve got an entirely new type of DLC for aoe2 made entirely by CaptureAgeâ.
It looks like the flag of the State of the Teutonic Order. They appear in many campaigns and scenarios in AOE2.
Yes one of the civ is definetly crusader states thats why there is multiple flags they belong to civs joined crusade imo.
Thank you for this info i hope they dont give human,person name to english variant thats my only wish.Also different architecture landmarks.
First flag is exactly an ancient version of Kingdom of France. Before they changed it to 3 lys.
Second flag is exactly Teutonic order.
Third flag looks like Coat of arm of Genoa. They didnât use the actual flag because for some reason genoa flag is exactly the same as England.
All 3 participated in the crusades. And the french crusaders were called Templar. (filename of the fort is Templar fortress)
So first variant (the cross) is probably the crusaders. I think they will use French language sfx for this variant. Since Templar (most significant faction) were french, unless this is actually a new civ, (I doubt it, the building models in screenshot are french), in that case they would use Latin as its the language that united all 3 crusader factions.
Second variant most likely English, as the Rose refers to some English noble houses (Tudor house symbol is a rose).
Links
First flag (scroll down): Flag of France - Wikipedia
Second Flag: State of the Teutonic Order - Wikipedia
Third Flag : Republic of Genoa - Wikipedia
" The flag of England, the St. Georgeâs Cross, is based on the flag of Genoa, which Genoa adopted during the Crusades. England adopted the St. Georgeâs Cross in the 13th century."
