It could be that the Italians get the standard halberdiers for the age 2 and 3 and then get an unique guard upgrade that transform them into papal guard.
Like the British redcoats for example.
Good question, after all what would be the royal guard of Italy? What options do we have? Carabinieri, Guard of the Nobles, Palatine Guard, Bersaglieri, etc.
Carabinieri, Bersaglieri, Sardinia grenadiers, Corazzieri (although they were part of Carabinieri), redishirtsā¦
All these make more sense than papal swiss guards, which stopped being part of the army at the end of the italian wars around 1560, then they were disbanded and remade several timesā¦
Exactly, and I also find it inappropriate for a civās royal guard to be named after another region, papal guards may even be a good option for Church technology, but not for royal guards.
I had forgotten to mention the Savoy cavalry as well, but I donāt know if they remained an independent regiment or were incorporated into another regiment.
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Well, Italians here are an umbrella civ that also includes the papal states, right? so they have a little more of reasons to include them? Iām not a sage in Italy history.
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Iām not Italian, but Iām Catholic, so a little bit of the history of the Papal States I know. I agree with our friend above that the Swiss Guard shouldnāt be an RG unit, even more so as it was a unit that didnāt fight battles, it was just a protection and ceremonial unit of the Pope.
The Papal Guard would make an excellent unit for the Churchās royal decree technologies, along with the Pontifical Zuaves.
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Well, RG usually doesnt have different skins (some of them have very small details). Papal Guard will be an UU for sure.
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It could function like the German war wagonsā¦ good against the infantry, pessim against the culebrinsā¦
Supongo que serĆ” un edificio normal como los bancos holandesesā¦
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The duomo could be like the cathedral of the Mexicans or the capitol of the United States and the Europeansā¦
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I think itāll be more like the Mexican cathedral but also with elements of a University.
Modern universities have their origin in Italian cathedral schools.
And what would a university do? Which techs would research?
From what we get until now, it seems that the main focus will be on the renaissance Italy, so I expect more units in line with that.
Of course it doesnāt mean that they wonāt add some more modern units too, either with upgrades or HC shipments.
Thatās not true, the swiss guards basically came from the hiring of bands of Swiss mercenaries, soldiers well renowned and respected for their military service. They fought in numerous wars of the papal state, especially during the Italians wars.
The most famous battle was during the sack of Rome, when during the march of the landskenechts the swiss counter-marched to defend the pope.
Consider also that there were also numerous soldiers in Italy that fought in a similar manner with similar weapons, like the venetians arsenalotti or fanti de mar.
There could be a ton of techs, from the Italians innovations in forts buildings and siege, to the doctors UU that there seem to be in the game, from unique tech for religious units, to simply generate XP.
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Indeed the Swiss Guard proved its worth in defending the Pope in the sack of Rome. But on the other hand, I confess that I am unaware of his participation in offensive actions by the army of the Papal States.
They were professional soldiers, so they participated in many military actions of the papal state, even before they were their bodyguards.
Some of them fought even in the battle of Lepanto for example, of course their role diminished with time and with the decline of the papal state.
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Once again, they stopped having actual part in military campaign after the italian wars, the were formed in 1506 and the got disbanded (or a after the sack of rome of 1527, then reformed in 1542 or 1548, it depend on which date you take in considerationā¦
After the italian wars ended they stopped being part of the army, but remained as pope bodyguards, and their contribution to the battle of lepanto was of just 12 men, that were the bodyguard of the admiral Marcantonio Colonnaā¦
Swiss papal guard didnāt even fought during the conquest of Rome of 1870!!
I think that the Italian wars are included inside the aoe3 time frame, so I donāt understand why they shouldnāt be an UU.
And even if they were disbanded and reformed more times why it should be a problem?
Yeah but still they fought, considering that Colonnaās ship rammed then ottoman admiral ship.
Itās true that they werenāt a unit that fought until the collapse of the papal state, but they still had their moments of glory. I mean, the Italians stopped using crossbowmen and elmeti tooā¦
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I guess the pre-Columbian civilizations will also get the same.
I insisted several times on this. I donāt know if you heard me or if it was a convergence of ideas, but thank you. XD
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I dont think itās a plague doctor, i donāt see its mask, and it looks like some kind of farmer anyway with that hat
Thatās 100% a plague doctor. The hat is part of their costume.
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