Bom, amigo… Se as pessoas quiserem jogar Aoe3 com o ideal original, sendo as revoluções parte importantes das civilizações europeias, acho que agora dá pra entender MUITO BEM porquê eles trocaram alguns nomes de eras, não era algo meio pra se adequar ao linguajar moderno e político, talvez eles tivessem uma visão de fazer essas civs em algum momento.
Agora que eles se empolgaram, posso ver que haverá uma expansão focada em uma área e depois uma civ aleatória pra cumprir tabela. Não posso deixar de admirar a engenhosidade deles ao construir o deck card, ao menos tão fazendo valer a audácia.
Sempre digo: ‘‘os desenvolvedores devem saber o que estão fazendo’’
Admito a possibilidade de os devs estarem se divertindo enquanto fazendo e construem essas civs novas. Se elas parecem fluídas e naturais, nós aceitaremos.
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This IS the same. The only difference is that TWC happened 15 years ago and US/Mexico DLC happens now. See how people can invent all those theories and rules that limit the theme or the setting of the game based on TAD (fortunately it directly follows TWC otherwise “everything about this game has been American so Asians do not fit”), all you need is another 10+ years.
BTW I’m not suggesting natives don’t deserve to be elevated. You are. If revolution nations are already represented by the game and should not turn into full civs, neither should natives.
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Revolutions are already full playable civs.
So are natives, and they are even more accessible.
You want to play Iroquois? Choose ANY CIV and ally with them.
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That’s like saying you are playing as Japan every time you hire Ronin mercenaries.
Ronin is one unit.
Iroquois has two fully upgradable units and three techs. Not so much fewer than what you get from a revolution.
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Italians have multiple mercenary units and techs but are still not a playable faction. You have to have quite the imagination to think the minor tribes are playable too.
Italians have two mercenaries and no techs. That’s still not comparable to a native tribe.
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Ethiopians have access to Italian techs
Ethiopians have one Italian card, in the form of something like “Italian support”, and there were “iroquois allies” cards before TWC (in greater numbers also)
Still by far not comparable
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This is the best post in this thread.
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sim eu tinha comentado sobre isso também eu realmente estava esperando italianos ou o brasil fiquei muito desapontado com o México.
They are absolutely comparable. The minor factions and age up allies are not playable factions.
Yeah like the best way to prove your point is repeating it and not responding to any rebuttal.
There are people who would rather see the game die in “dignity” obeying the laws (which they invent themselves).
Like yelling to your ex-girlfriend “No I’d rather see you die than going out with the guy, because his height does not fall with the range of 5’7” to 5’10” and all your ex-boyfriends obey that rule”.
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Seems to be the tactic you are going for. I’m not sure how you can argue that a minor faction that can switch allegiance mid game and doesn’t have a home city is a “playable faction”. Revolutions don’t have those drawbacks and every aspect is directly controlled by the player (even cards if they were granted the age up by states mechanic).
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Surely everyone has seen it’s me who is repeating huh?
I don’t know how your “law of aoe3” evolves all the way from “a civ already represented in the game should not turn into playable civs” to a much stricter version of “a civ with home cities and xxx number of cards/techs should be considered as already represented as playable civs”, zigzagging to avoid all the counter examples. That’s not what you started with.
If anything like that happens, there is a vErY UnLiKeLy possibility that your law do not hold at all.
BTW all the revolutions have the exact same home city appearance and no specific voice lines. By the codex of aoe3 I just made up a minute ago, they fall even below natives and Italian mercenaries in terms of “fully represented”.
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One of the best additions ever.
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I hope they add more like these, I’ll buy every single one.
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It doesn’t help when you argue against strawmen. My point is Mexico and USA were already represented as playable civs. The minor factions are not currently playable. There are plenty that would be much better options than Mexico for full civs (Mapuche, Apache, Akan, etc).
The revolutions should have been expanded so Mexico/USA/Brazil/Gran Colombia, etc were more fleshed out and better represented.
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