Japonais

Hello !

Je trouve que les japonais sont mauvais à l’âge 2, d’après moi ils auraient besoin d’un petit UP pour l’âge 2, quitte à être encore un peu nerf à l’âge 3.

Je peux avoir vos avis la dessus ?
Merci

Which Age game are we talking about? Japanese are in AoE 2, 3 and 4.

Oups désolé je n’ai pas précisé, je parle de age of empire 4

Alright, I’ll move your topic to AoE 4.

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They have received buffs such as a decrease in cost for the daimyo manor upgrade which means you can get it earlier in age 2. Mass yumi archers, get the daimyo manor upgrade and get a yumi bannerman and they are more than capable in age 2 of fighting cost effectively vs most units, just get a few spearmen to protect them from horseman or early knights.

Also the shinobi are slept on, they are extremely strong age 2 units that beat pretty much any unit in melee and only need to be protected from archers. Try them out, they’ve been buffed several times and are now very much viable.

I think the thing they lack most is in economy. Onna bugeisha are very effective in feudal, yumi ashigaru spam is a little slept on I think. I’ve been using the extra stone to get another town center if my aggression pays off, but the bannerman from daimyo is so important it takes me longer than other feudal aggression civs.

They just don’t have what others do for economy (as early). Their age 3 is such a big power spike that I think it’s like you hurt yourself not going for it.

I’ve been doing feudal aggression japanese as often as I can this season, but I haven’t done much shinobi play. I’ll have to try it, didn’t think about their combat potential!

Not feudal, but I haven’t been able to see a reason that buddhist should be picked over shinto. I wonder if I lack skill or if it needs a small buff.

If you get the manor upgrade early then you have as good economy as practically any civ in feudal, even more so with the upgrades to carry capacity and speed at the farmhouse. It’s late game where japans eco becomes worse once other civs have all their upgrades.

Try the shinobi, they have more dps than onna-bugeisha as they do 20 damage with 1.25 rate of fire and have +5 vs melee units they also regen health out of combat. With sabotage they also do a ton of damage to buildings and early in the game even just destroying a house is impactful when res is limited.

The buddhist temple is terrible, it’s only use is vs OOTD units as the debuff hurts them so much more but otherwise it is a worthless landmark.

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