[JUST FOR FUN] If you had to place campaign protagonists on an alignment chart, where would they go?

Forum won’t let me add an image, so here are the various alignments:

Lawful Good | Neutral Good | Chaotic Good

Lawful Neutral | Neutral (or True Neutral) | Chaotic Neutral

Lawful Evil | Neutral Evil | Chaotic Evil

Are campaign protagonists even varied enough to fill the entire chart at least once? I know at least a few spaces could be filled.

/ Lawful Neutral Chaotic
Good Joan D’Arc El Cid
Neutral Saladin Frederick Barbarossa
Evil Moctezuma Gengis Khan Attila

I think Francisco de Almeida would be evil as well, just not sure whether neutral or chaotic.

Vytautas for Chaotic Good or Chaotic Neutral?

Eh, Almeida seems more like true neutral to me. Gold is really the only thing he wanted, and he did anything to get it.

I think his history qualifies too much as colonialism for him to be neutral.

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The Hauteville protagonist Bohemond would be an excellent candidate for Chaotic neutral. They were all selfish bastards, and most of their plots and schemes were heinous in their own right, but Bohemond merely wanted recognition and fame. He didn’t give a crap about the rest of his family, only that he got what he wanted. A truly mercenary mindset…

i don’t know if nothing in history should qualify as chaotic good, chaos should never be seen as something good…

How about chaotic good for Jan Zizka, and chaotic neutral for Sforza?

That said, I don’t think the alignment axes make sense in the context of AoE2. Lawful according to which laws? Good according to whose moral code? Alignment only really makes sense in relation to a fixed frame of reference, but AoE2 has such a multicultural setting that there’s no clear choice of frame of reference.

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That’s D&D terminology. Chaotic in that case doesn’t mean some malevolent force, just character style

i know, but which historical figure would do chaos with good intention?

In D&D being of chaotic alignment isn’t meant as doing chaos, just being unbound by laws etc. Think Robin Hood as an example of Chaotic Good.

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that’s not an historical character

I think it’s quite a misleading choice of terminology. Something like “lawless” would be better than “chaotic”. To me, “chaotic” sounds like someone who appears to act at random from other people’s points of view.

Anyone who deliberately breaks the law for a good cause is chaotic good, so for example, Harriet Tubman, Emily Davison.

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