Yes please. I tried using the palace seriously. But you simply can’t-
It just far to random, and only thing that makes it viable is when you get a few giga-trebs.
I would say the NoB are nice, but only getting 1 of them randomly significantly reduces their viability.
Tbh, I don’t get why it cant just be toggable, or at the very least, just like the Wynguard palace.
Why does the English get to specifically choose what they need.
but mongols have to go to the casino and hope for the best?
Units you get from them are nice, thats not the issue.
but if you are pressing the front, and need something to effectivly knock down a landmark castle that is in your way.
A Huihuipow is nice.
Getting Horse-archers or Mangudai dosn’t do you much.
Also many of the unit’s dosnt synergise well with mongol units.
Horse archers are pretty bad running with mangudai’s. (they are better grouped for themselves).
Palace Guards dont mix well with MaA (the difference in damage soak and runspeed, causes them to naturally seperate in combat). Not to mention if you already invested heavily into cav, suddently getting infantry wont do you much.
The NoB’s dosnt go well with Mangonels due to difference in set-up time and fire-rate.
Nor are NoB’s particularly effective in such few number so late in the game.
So far the most usefull units are:
Warrior Monks
Rus-Knights
HuiHuiPao
Mangudai
Palace Guards
NoBs (only if you get lucky and get 2 of them in a row)
Rus-Horse archers (If you don’t use mangudai, and manage to get a descent mass of them)
I would rather see something like the English Wynguard palace instead:
Option 1: Yuan Tribute - 6 Palace guards + 1 NoB
Option 2: Golden Horde Tribute - 2 Rus Knights, 1 Warrior monk, 5 Horse archers
Option 3: Ilkhanate Tribute - 2 Camel Riders + 1 HuiHuiPao
Option 4: Chagatai Tribute - 5 Mangudai + 2 Lancers
All of these options should be around equal in resource value.