Let Worlds Edge keep messing around then. Im already disappointed with Age of Empires IV

Age of Empires IV IV - Discussion
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They’ve delayed the four variants to November—if I hadn’t checked, I wouldn’t even know. But once I saw that, I realized: so this is all we’re getting this year? Forget bugs, content fixes—they can’t do anything right. At this pace every year, is World’s Edge just raising poison bugs or something? What are they, immortals who can just drag things on forever? I’ve already lost all enthusiasm. Spain, the Nordics, all that nonsense—I don’t even care anymore. At least personally, I won’t be trusting or expecting anything from World’s Edge again. It’s pointless.

Either they should just fully disclose their yearly plans and allocations to players, or simply shut down all the community forums and mods altogether. Microsoft clearly doesn’t care if RTS lives or dies, and World’s Edge is like a corpse that doesn’t even breathe. At this speed, never mind new content or factions—if they manage to fix AoE4’s bugs, AI, UI, and balance in 10 years, it’d already be a miracle.

At this pace, will AoE4 even still be in development five years from now? Does World’s Edge even have the average skill level, age, technical know-how, or mindset to sustain it? Is there anyone to take over afterward? Or are players’ ages just going to be infinitely stretched—five or ten years from now, we’ll be 30–35, while younger players in their 20s are supposed to wait five or ten years for this?

Sigh. Wouldn’t it be better if they just ended development altogether? That way they’d save themselves the trouble, and players too. Every time they deliberately raise expectations, only to smack players in the face again.

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This is just dlc news maybe they will reveal they added other things too(i hope).

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usually there’s a big patch with the dlc so we’ll see how it goes, maybe some QoL, but i’m keeping my expectations low, can’t disappoint someone that expects nothing

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Right now I just hope they can fix and improve the AI and the code, and expand it to 500 population.

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I have to say, for a company at Microsoft’s level, the Empire team has the game moving at this pace…

It really isn’t even comparable to the indie studio next door and their game call to arms : Gates of Hell.

Sure, they’re slower, but one or two factions a year—by September, the British and Italian factions were released. Why compare? Because even at that slow pace, they’re an indie studio, yet they actually deliver. For example, they promised to include all vehicles and tanks that participated from early to late WWII—and they did it. The content volume is something they can guarantee 100%.

Currently, the Soviet + German + Finnish + American factions have roughly 150–200+ vehicles in total. And yet, your Empire team can’t even match a single indie studio? Sigh. Of course, of course, big companies aren’t run the way we imagine, and they’re not comparable to indie studios—but I can’t help making the comparison.

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The biggest problem is their communication. They had promised to improve, even the biggest yesmen would admit it, yet it still went all the way downhills.

We have no idea what they are working or planning, or why they made certain decisions. They only provide very sporadic, heavily redacted marketing information where everything sounds perfectly fine and consistent when it is not (and some people really bought those bs). All we can do is speculate. And based on their actual actions, the speculation would not look promising

Even Relic itself after multiple financial problems could openly admit they need to turn to smaller, independent productions for some time. But here you still don’t hear anything. I think it’s clear whose problem it is.

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Bro look i think they added more things but they dont tell it in there. @MedicMaaan thank you for sharing this.

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“Variable skins for animals” was in AOM like 20 years ago. At launch.

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Maybe there is much more we dont know yet.

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I read some comments about there being variations of berry bushes, but can’t find a credible source. It’s kind of like the points of interest in the last DLC, they tease like 40% of the content, and then we get much more in the patch notes a week before launch.

There is a lot more to see from the DLC than what they’ve talked about!

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There is an image of prickly pear cactus as berry bushes in one of the new biomes.

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Welcome to the new Worlds Edge. This is the company that, just this year:

–Started the year by abandoning AOE3 and cancelling the promised Baltic DLC, betraying the entire community
–Released 3K. After promising the new DLC would be all new civs (definitely no Chinese split!) and hyping up the AOE3 community, it turned out to be… Mostly a Chinese split, with the new “civs” not even being thematic to the game and featuring hero mechanics, something no one in AOE2 wanted
–Is releasing the P2W scamware AOE Mobile on PC at the request of literally no AOE fans
–Has failed to patch major bugs in its newest game, AOMR, that have been present at launch
–Overseen layoffs at CaptureAge, the subsidiary studio that made Chronicles, where the level designers for Chronicles were fired despite Chronicles 2 being released before the end of the ear.

The studio is corrupted. It’s run by incompetents who seem fixated on sacrificing the longevity of the series for short term gains.

Abandon AOE3! Sure we’ll lose profits from all the content and cosmetic DLC we could make long-term and will make that entire, not insignificant, playerbase livid and likely provoke a boycott, but short term we save on some dev costs.

Release 3K! Sure, the AOE2 community will be disgusted with the DLC and hate us for lying to them, causing a significant number of players to abandon the game and even more to refuse to buy any more DLC at all, but we might be able to get massive sales in China, despite players in the Chinese market actively saying they don’t want any set in 3K in the game

Push AOE Mobile to PC! Sure, it’s reviled as a poorly made P2W scam, but we made a lot of money on mobile from whales and hopefully a few more 5-year olds get a hold of their parents credit card.

Fire Devs! Sure CaptureAge, you can fire your level designers. After all, the work is already done for Alexander, so that won’t affect the DLCs. The NDAs they signed will prevent them from trashing us and we can probably get some cheaper ones if we decide to make Chronicles 3.

Only Variants for AOE4! Man, variants are cheap to make. Let’s do more of those instead of the civs the AOE4 community wants, like Vikings, Spanish, and Aztecs. We can make a thematically nonsensical Viking variant of the Byzantines. They’ll just consume the content.

It’s time to start looking at their products with a critical eye. Don’t buy this DLC, it’s just cheap trash, and start speaking out against the studio. Weaker sales won’t harm the studio or the franchise, but instead gives it a chance to recover by forcing reform at Worlds Edge. AOE3 is in open revolt and AOE2 is openly resentful. It’s time for AOE4 to join in, because if this DLC does well, all the studio will hear is they never need to produce a real civ ever again.

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I get you’re upset about treatment of products generally under the studio, but nah, let people make up their own minds. If it’s bad, people aren’t going to buy it en masse anyway.

I hate artificial campaigns where people force their opinions on others.

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You hate artificial campaigns where people force their opinions on others when they are not in favor of WE.

This is your chance:

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Hmmm, sounds like you are trying to artificially campaign shut down people’s legitimate negative response to the horrendous treatment the entire franchise is receiving.

I want people to think and speak for themselves, something that often gets shut down, particularly in the AOE4 community, whenever criticism is leveled at the studio or the issues with the game.

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“here is a post you’ve never seen, gotcha”.

I didn’t write a manifesto banging on about games from other subforums before capping it with an instruction to not buy a DLC that isnt even out yet.

Nor do I have any ability to shut down anything. Thankfully! You’re free to post whatever you do, and if you can present a logical argument as to why this DLC is objectively “cheap trash”, I’m all ears.

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Funny you just accidentally failed to see every one of them.

But you still have time to make up for your oversight. You know. It’s not time-limited.

Show me one time where you engage in your endless word picking with a WE bootlicker and I’ll believe you’re sincere
Same thing with your dear WE: they only need to show one sign of honesty and one tiny inversion of this downhill trend, just once, and people will regain trust in them.

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Keep being their well-behaved Intern dude
We the true players want quality, decency, honesty, straight communication!

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Welcome aboard the company that hates, mistreats, lies, gaslights and make promises on deliver a content that would never ever happen

This is my take on why the most valuable company has more than zero commitment and 100 percent of incompetence

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Better communication would be great!

Me responding to posters in this thread has nothing to do with WE, or me having the time (lol) to intern for them. I understand some of you can’t understand the concept of liking the game, and that any amount of positivity must be taken as the poster in question somehow being employed by World’s Edge . . . but man. Is that all you have?

Is that the most constructive you can be?

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