List of suggestions for upcoming patches. (2024)

[MUTYLATOR5553]

Exactly!

Unfortunately, the old Home Cities are ugly compared to those added from TAD DLC to currently.

BTW. Amsterdam, unfortunately, is the most boring of all HCs in game.

[Konahrik1140]

Gran Colombia (All game modes)

Bonus.

1. Greater Colombia loses the ability to build barracks and can build Military Camps instead.
2. Mercenary shipments now also unlock the unit for creation in bars, Marcenarian camps and Military Camps.

Note: The Military Camp is basically a Maltese hospital customized for this revolution.

New cards.
Argentina Reinforcements: Send 20 mounted grenadiers that heal themselves while standing and can promote to increase their attack range and attack speed.

Chile Reinforcements: Send 20 Death Hussars that heal themselves while standing still and can promote to increase their movement speed.

Improved Mercenaries: Mercenaries get +15% hit points and attack.

Mercenary Camps: Upgrades Taverns into Mercenary Camps that get cost -50%, build time -25%, build bounty and hit points -50%, auto gather coin -60%, build limit +3, and offer a fixed assortment of German mercenaries: Landsknechts, Jaegers, Giant Grenadiers, Black Riders, Pandours.

Land Grab: Mills, Livestock Pens, and Estates cost -40% and build time -75%

Textile Mill: Villagers gather coin from Estates, Fields, Haciendas, and Rice Paddies 25% faster; Haciendas auto gather coin 25% faster

Gran Colombian Haciendas: Villagers gather from Haciendas 25% faster; send 4 Hacienda construction carts.

Haití. (All game modes)

I think that this revolution should be redone, although I don’t even know where to start making changes.

[OperaticShip743]

Akincis (Ottomans)

The build speed should affect all types of mounted archers.

[MatM1996]

@platypus_slayer1

Anyways, inca and aztec are designed around non gunpowder. Unless the devs are willing to destroy existing civs for w/e new version would be, light cannons (the unique unit of haude) should remain a haude unique unit

@platypus_slayer1

just fan fiction on the horse part of aztec or inca. while they adopted during phases of resistance, their empires were long gone or rumps. Ample is a poor choice of words Contact aztecs were terrified of horses let alone use them. Tupac’s rebellion is a nice reference, but the inca civ in game is based on contact inca not post contact rebellions. Incan s under spanish rule used them alot to consolidate/civil wars for control. but not during contact Would again, take a complete redesign to integrate and a bit of a stretch to pretend inca/aztec empires (keyword the empires not the few resistance areas) stood in rank with pre contact formations

But hey, im sure killing an entire civ and robbing another of its unique unit to satisfy a few forum posters would be in the games best interest. Until someone can actually put money where their mouth is and show me this redesigned civ idea for actual conversation in a mod that works and isnt worse than existing ideas that the community adopts, i think safely pointing out why its clashes within the games real actual structure is more productiv

@platypus_slayer1

again i know this is forums where people kind of have their idea on how a civ should be, but if you compare aztecs and incas as the meso civ (yes inca isnt a meso civ in reality but its how age of empires logic works) giving them horses and artillery not only clashes with their identity of how they are in aoe3. pre contact with a few cards for later references but the core identity is pre contact armies.

@MUTYLATOR5553

I guess it’s just to make them look like Aztecs civ? X D

Yes, the mesocivs are based on their AoE 2 counterparts (15th-16th centuries), that’s why they don’t use cavalry or gunpowder and have infantry that takes that place…the native North American civs are later (17th-19th centuries ) that’s why they use gunpowder and cavalry, they are based on historical issues, not so much on gameplay issues…

@M00Z1LLA

Not really Inca and Maya can get them already.

@M00Z1LLA

I’m only taking about Inca, do not conflate the two. Aztec did not have horses and did not survive past first contact so their depiction is frozen in time.

None of that is true for Inca. They persisted for decades as an outright sovereign state (Neo-Inca empire) and much longer as insurgents. The game depicts until the late 1800s so there’s no reason for them to be frozen in time and ignore most of the relevant history. Especially when doing that imposes undue gameplay restrictions. They were using horses and gunpowder under Manco Inca before the empire was fully subdued so there’s no reason to make them a shitty Aztec clone.

Yes, but it is very borderline…the Inca Empire per se did not have gunpowder and cavalry (I accept Tupac Amaru’s revolution) and the Mayans perhaps Chan Santa Cruz…

@OperaticShip743

However, everyone can have mortars when it is historically unrealistic. It would be more appropriate to have the ability to train light cannons. I personally would enable them in the imperial era with a limit of 5 maximum.

Yes, that is true… but it is to allow the native North American civs to have something to attack…

@M00Z1LLA

The depiction of Inca in WoL is a million times better and predates them being in the game. It’s totally possible to have a well designed Inca civ.

The current civ is full of terrible unbalanceable ideas like anti-artillery being only short ranged infantry, a single naval unit, and forcing them to be archaic for no reason.

Well there are design issues, remember that the WoL civs are not very balanced so to speak…

@ArkadasLlisa

Well, if we include more than Aztec empire and we include a more broad Nahua people civ, that could include the people that allied with Spanish that adopted European Warfare. Some sort of revolution/revolution card could fit for them to create new nahua/spanish units

There it could be, it would be adding some other card and that’s it…

@ElEncantadorDePerras

Me gustaría que el escaramuzador de argentina sea así

Cuando agreguen la civ argentina quizás xd…

@OperaticShip743

Would this imply a potential new real house?

Maybe they come with the new dlc?..

@HoopThrower

So… is no one going to point out that’s a mapuche horseman?

But with the Mapuches it is fine, because like the Lakotas, the Mapuches became a cavalry civ in the 18th century…

@platypus_slayer1

the civ is fine as is, if you bring out light cannons age3, you have to nerf kanya and MR, which means rebalancing 3 units now as they are made to perform better vs artillery. you now have to re evalaute every single age3 shipment as haude gets slightly better value unit shipments as compensation for no artillery age3
forcing another card makes you also have to either combine existing cards to make their seige card well or its just a flat nerf.

So youve changed one unit and now have a domino effect all to make inca get to steal another civs unique unit and watered down haude. Its just such a poor idea. give inca their own cul (or you know, make the huaraca a balanced unit) makes more sense then messing with core civ designs imho

edit- also rams would literally be obsolete, moreso than they are now

Sure, you touch something from a civ and you have to touch everything…

@Spiritof1973

two more epochs … a stone age with clubman and not much else but another level to help ease the fast castle etc … and a pre ww1 level with hot air balloons and some gunpowder units like a gatlin gun …

I see the first as impossible, the second as improbable, but it could be…

@Spiritof1973

two more civs like the americans from the 16th or 17th century similar to aoe3

Maybe next year with Tupi and Mapuche…

@Spiritof1973

a few more building like a hospital and medic that heals just like empire earth lol

That already exists in the game…it is the Field Hospital and the Surgeon…

@Spiritof1973

house help defensive or attack boost and act like walls like in aoe2

It is not possible because the houses have construction limits and boosting nearby units is already done by the Lakota teepes…

@Spiritof1973

ability to breed hunts like empire earth had similar to the malians

The Livestock Pens already do that…

@Spiritof1973

unique heroes to each civ like a warrior or a strategist like empire earth had

You already have the explorers with their unique skins…

@Konahrik1140

I could be wrong, but isn’t the reason why Spain can’t build Haciendas because they were more important to the American colonies?

In any case, I propose giving the Hispanic revolutions the ability to build this building as a base and then give them some cards that allow this building to be specialized to something representative of civilization.

@Ekdal1378

Since they already are, from my POV I agree with each hispanic country getting a specialized Hacienda through cards whike Spain gets diluted version of them via Viceroyalties cards. Like USA does with immigrant cards

@CanineCrown7153

I would add more stuff for Revolutions, like Imperial Age techs, so they get an even more singular identity each. Maybe for Euro civs, you could get cards that synergize well with some Revolutions, like, I don’t know, “Pisco chileno” (real pisco), which lowers the prize of the Chilean rev, or “Pisco peruano” (fake pisco), or “Chocolate argentino” or whatever…

@Konahrik1140

All revolutions: now lose the ability to build plantations and mills, but can build up to 4 Haciendas, except Mexico which can build 6.
Personally, I would also give all Hispanic revolutions the ability to train soldiers to replace the conventional musketeer.

@Konahrik1140

New cards.
Argentina Reinforcements: Send 20 mounted grenadiers that heal themselves while standing and can promote to increase their attack range and attack speed.

Chile Reinforcements: Send 20 Death Hussars that heal themselves while standing still and can promote to increase their movement speed.

Improved Mercenaries: Mercenaries get +15% hit points and attack.

Mercenary Camps: Upgrades Taverns into Mercenary Camps that get cost -50%, build time -25%, build bounty and hit points -50%, auto gather coin -60%, build limit +3, and offer a fixed assortment of German mercenaries: Landsknechts, Jaegers, Giant Grenadiers, Black Riders, Pandours.

Land Grab: Mills, Livestock Pens, and Estates cost -40% and build time -75%

Textile Mill: Villagers gather coin from Estates, Fields, Haciendas, and Rice Paddies 25% faster; Haciendas auto gather coin 25% faster

Gran Colombian Haciendas: Villagers gather from Haciendas 25% faster; send 4 Hacienda construction carts.

Haití. (All game modes)

I think that this revolution should be redone, although I don’t even know where to start making changes.

It seems good to me, I agree with the revolutionary theme…

@MUTYLATOR5553

I would also add some parades and festivals for European Home Cities - where nothing happens. In addition, I would also like to see AI Personalities walking the streets of Home City.

By the way, a cool thing would be alternative Home Cities that could be chosen (like Rome and Florence for Italians civ, Madrid for Spanish civ, Moscow for Russians civ…) - just like Hero unit skins.

@UpmostRook9474

Maybe military parades. But I’d like to see more unique festivals than a generic European style military parade.

@UpmostRook9474

It’d be weird to see the emperors and empresses just walk around like an ordinary person.

I’d like to see some Easter Eggs such like history amateurs in an outfit of the AoE2 units walking on or standing beside the streets:

@UpmostRook9474

• British: Birmingham
• French: Lyon
• Dutch: Rotterdam
• Germans: Vienna
• Swedes: Gothenburg
• Russians: Moscow
• Chinese: Guangzhou (If Imperial Treasure Fleet cannot be regarded as second home city)
• Japanese: Osaka
• Indians: Mumbai

@MUTYLATOR5553

Oktoberfest, Running of the bulls, Krampusnacht, Royal Wedding Parade
You can certainly find something to suit every Home City.

@MUTYLATOR5553

• British: Victorian London, Edinburgh, Liverpool, Dublin
• French: Versailles, Marseille, Orleans
• Dutch: Hague, Utrecht, Antwerp?, Brussels?, Ghent?
• Germans: Cologne, Hamburg, Königsberg, Munich, Dresden, Frankfurt, Breslau
• Swedes: Malmö, Uppsala, Helsinki, Riga, Reval
• Russians: Odessa, Kyiv, Tiflis, Kazan, Baku, Minsk, Veliky Novgorod, Yerevan
• Chinese: Hong Kong, Shenyang, Nanjing
• Japanese: Yokohama, Kyoto
• Indians: Calcutta, Bengaluru, Madras

And in addition:

• Spanish: Madrid, Barcelona, Valencia, Bilbao
• Portuguese: Porto, Braga
• Ottomans: Athens, Sofia, Edrine, Cairo, Jerusalem, Tripoli, Tunis, Mecca, Baghdad
• Maltese: Rodos
• Italians: Rome, Milan, Florence, Turin, Genoa, Naples, Palermo, Vatican
• USA: New York, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia
• Mexicans: Veracruz, Guadalajara
• Ethiopians: Addis Ababa, Mekelle
• Hausa: Sokoto
• Aztecs: Texcoco, Tlacopan
• Incas: Machu Picchu, Willkapampa

Of course that would be great, they can even sell you new customizable HCs in dlcs xd…

@MUTYLATOR5553

Unfortunately I have no idea for Haudenosaunee and Lakota alternatives Home Cities…

It’s because they didn’t have others, they were villages in the forests and plains xd…

@Kingfisher1787

Please this specifically. Maybe add some occasional jumping

Of course, like Quasimodo in Notre Dame in the HC of Paris… they can also put an afrosamurai as the explorer skin cough cough AC Shadows cough cough (although in this case it’s fine, since Yasuke was N0bunaga’s protégé)…

@ArrivedLeader22

Problem is the home cities (esp earlier ones) do not look like the actual cities in reality, except one or two landmark buildings.

I think they do look like actual cities…what we see of London is Picadilly and the Tower of London, of Paris the Seine and Notre Dame, Lisbon the Belem tower, of Seville (Spain) the Torre de Oro and so on…

@MUTYLATOR5553

Unfortunately, the old Home Cities are ugly compared to those added from TAD DLC to currently.

BTW. Amsterdam, unfortunately, is the most boring of all HCs in game.

Yes, but it is understood that they were civs from the base game and they were the first…Amsterdam is rescued a little by the Fluyt to the right…

[SirBarnzy1]

I’d like to see a couple of additional Revolutionary civ home city designs, just to mix it up a little (maybe more representative of the region they’re based on).

[EricTheRed283]

Haudenosaunee
The Age I shipment Forest Mother shipment changed from: Ships 9 Deer to: Ships 6 or 7 Deer and can be sent Infinite times.

A new Age II shipment that sends 3 Rams and unlocks the ability to construct Siege Workshops in Age II allowing for the training of Rams one age early.

The Age III Environmentalism shipment changed from: Trees last 400% longer; Forest Prowlers and Musket Riders cost wood instead of coin to: Trees last 400% longer, Tomahawks and Kanya Horseman cost coin instead of wood.

A new Age IV shipment that spawns 1 tree from each Longhouse and enables the ability for Longhouses to plant a new tree ( costs 100 Food and has a cooldown) around it and enables the Longhouse to auto gather from these new trees.

[Loni]

@EricTheRed283

The Age III Environmentalism shipment changed from: Trees last 400% longer; Forest Prowlers and Musket Riders cost wood instead of coin to: Trees last 400% longer, Tomahawks and Kanya Horseman cost coin instead of wood.

A new Age IV shipment that spawns 1 tree from each Longhouse and enables the ability for Longhouses to plant a new tree ( costs 100 Food and has a cooldown) around it and enables the Longhouse to auto gather from these new trees.

Can you elaborate on the “Environmentalism” change? What’s the point of turning all my units to gold cost when your next idea of age IV “tree farm” synergizes way better with all of my units costing wood.
If I go for new environmentalism there’s no point in getting that tree spawn shipment since why would I need more wood, I dont have any units costing wood.

Environmentalism in it’s current form needs to provide wood gathering buff and if we really want it to be able to switch from all wood to all coin then it respectively needs to increase gold gathering speed.

[Tetsuryu]

Je pense que c’est dû au fait qu’au moins les pièces sont “infinis” comparé au fait qu’il n’y ai plus de récolte possible de bois par les villageois vu que c’est une ressource qui est en fait temporaire, certaines civs arrivent à en partie y pallier si elles ont des usines/sanctuaire/kancha/etc, d’où l’intérêt pour les Hauds de pouvoir passer des unités du coût en bois à or

[EricTheRed283]

@Loni

@EricTheRed283

The Age III Environmentalism shipment changed from: Trees last 400% longer; Forest Prowlers and Musket Riders cost wood instead of coin to: Trees last 400% longer, Tomahawks and Kanya Horseman cost coin instead of wood.

A new Age IV shipment that spawns 1 tree from each Longhouse and enables the ability for Longhouses to plant a new tree ( costs 100 Food and has a cooldown) around it and enables the Longhouse to auto gather from these new trees.

Can you elaborate on the “Environmentalism” change? What’s the point of turning all my units to gold cost when your next idea of age IV “tree farm” synergizes way better with all of my units costing wood.
If I go for new environmentalism there’s no point in getting that tree spawn shipment since why would I need more wood, I dont have any units costing wood.

Environmentalism in it’s current form needs to provide wood gathering buff and if we really want it to be able to switch from all wood to all coin then it respectively needs to increase gold gathering speed.

Rams,Mantlets,Light Cannons,Canoes and War Canoes as well as Natives on maps would still have a wood cost to them not to mention the cost of buildings to build and repair so having a way to still get wood would be nice if you chose to use Environmentalism or not.

[Roman22119456]

WHY devs remove the “plus icons” on the Field Hospital and the Surgeon??? Now it is difficult to quickly notice and distinguish them on the map!

[TheLiberator236]

Which are those missing icons?

[Roman22119456]

The Green (or Red) Plus icons are is treatment pharmacy symbol

[MatM1996]

@SirBarnzy1

I’d like to see a couple of additional Revolutionary civ home city designs, just to mix it up a little (maybe more representative of the region they’re based on).

Yes, I agree… something like that…