Make the new elite UU skins optional

Basically title. After 25+ years, I just dislike the longbowman etc. to be changed. I understand many people support the reskins, so the creation of an option would leave everybody happy.

I guess I could mod most of it back, but with so many civs it’d be a serious hassle (only the Bengali UU already has 10 different graphic files - pre-update!), whereas it’s presumably an easy fix to make the elite UU skins optional.

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There should be a mod for that already if you want it.
Not everything that 0.1% of the player base wants needs to be a base game feature.

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Unfortunately, nope.

You mispelled “not yet”. When there is some demand, chances are someone will make it.

If it’s just loading another model for the unit, it doesn’t sound like the hardest mod to make, if you want to try it yourself. In another game (Space Engineers) I wanted a mod making Earth but the ones available were very poorly made, so I made it myself. 80k subscribers on the Steam Workshop.

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lets not make up statistics unless you got some numbers to show

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If there was demand wouldn’t have someone made a mod already?

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I really like the new skins, but my issue is more that it’s difficult to read, especially to players who can only touch the game every so often. Same is true for monks. And there are so many civs already, that it’s so many more skins the brain needs to process fast enough.

This being said, the skins are really nice, well done to the devs!

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Sometime a large number of players don’t know they want it until they see it available. I know from experience, a lot of players wanted Earth with a proper geography… (which was a tall and intimidating order that I solved in 15 min by thinking outside of the box)

But I suspect removing the elite skins won’t be massively popular as adding them was widely acclaimed.

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I was quite happy when the UU skins were announced.
As time go by, however, it turns out the more I look at the elite UU skins, the less I like them (with some exceptions).

I think many skins look too busy and overly-decorated. Sometimes if the player is red, then UU often just look like red blobs.

While it’s easier to distinguish elite and non-elite, somehow it becomes harder to distinguish between different elite UUs lmao.

Though I’m certain it’s quite easy to make a mod to opt out of elite skins and someone will make one soon.

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Too much gold (even on stupid parts like the rim of the viking berserker’s shields, when you know viking shields were considered disposable to the point a warrior would bring 3-4 for a battle…), while iron/steel or to be a bit fancy bronze would look amazing.

A mod adjusting the models may get more popular than removing them. But it would be more work, even with the base files (change the model then run the same animations)

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I’m sorry, but “-10 monk skins is more than I can be bothered to memorize” (not the exact words) is really funny to me.

I really hate how adding gold details is the only way the devs could think of making most units look “upgraded”. But the greatest offender has definitely gotta be the War Wagon. Why does it need Turtle Ship-like armor? It’s not even a real Korean thing, it’s a Chinese wagon from before the middle ages. I’d prefer if it and the Woad Raider got replaced or at least reskinned.

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fallacy logic image

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I made a poll asking people if they like the new Elite UU skins and only 1 guy voted that he dislikes (almost) all of them so far.

[poll] Do you like the new Elite Unit and Castle Skins and?

An that one guy makes historical unit skin mods for AoE3 so I’m not sure if he got the question wrong?

There are a lot of different combinations of visual features that people would want. Like would the new civs also not get unique Elite skins?
Would none Castle UUs also be included?
What about Castles themselves? Should only the old civs keep their Castles and all new ones have unique ones? Or Should no civ have a unique Castle.

There are so many different combinations that all are only wanted by a tiny number of people. They would have to set up a whole settings menu for that.
Why just add a toggle for new Elite Unit skins when people also don’t want unique Castles, Monks and so on.

I’d go as far as saying that we are a small minority on the forum. a small portion of players for sure.

you have got to realize that firstly competitive players often don’t really care as long as it doesn’t affect them all that much. however if theres an option for it some would prefer to switch back just like OP.

lastly, the poll you linked is meaningless. your argument is basically this: no one made a super cheap robotthat can cook for you, drive for you, do all your work for you. it must mean no one wants it.

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This argument makes no sense because it’s pretty easy to mod back the original units skins.
At last it should be easy in most cases, I don’t know how much of the animation frames were changed, because those changes do require data modding. But I assume most Elite version of UUs have the same number of frames then their none elite version so it’s trivial to replace it.

So it’s easy to mod therefor someone would have made a mod for it if there was a demand.
If it was very hard and complicated to mod I would agree that it should be an official feature.
For example adding Unique Elite Unit skins was very hard before because you had to make a data mod which is not multiplayer compatible and brakes with every update.
You can’t change the Architecture of the Persians to Central Asian without a Datamod either so people are also demanding that to become an official feature.

easy for people who knows what to do, otherwise its very difficult for people to find information to start.

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Ideally there would be a feature where you could toggle all optional cosmetics, they’re all clientside anyway, just currently lumped into groups (EAST, WEST, ASIA etc).
It’s just not a feature because both visuals and stats are stored in one dat file, and the game thus doesn’t allow modifying visuals to prevent cheating (modifying stats).

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  1. remove the sprite you don’t like
  2. duplicate the one you like
  3. rename the duplicate to the one you deleted
  4. profit

I also think the demand is relatively low, but you could just let these post sink?

I mean, It isn’t first time someone requests a similar feature, and if it really has no demand, those post will receive only very few comments and soon be sink and forgotten. I don’t see the reason of actively downplaying those opinions.

Btw, I voted “some are good and some are bad” in your poll, I just wish they could fix the proportion of some new castles, and less goldly for some eitle UU.

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This you (the community) could also DIY as well
Take the UHD graphics and scale it down using SMX/SLP tools