why do i get matchmaking penalty for just ALT + F4 one game. i want to play the new map arabian desert. why do you force me to play steppe or something i do NOT like?
24 hours ago i dodge few maps i don’t like and now i get added penalty time? that’s a joke right?
you don’t want me to play at all i guess.
think about the other people your opponent is looking to have fun but can’t because of you dodging I think the penalty is deserved I don’t like it when people resign instantly because it artificially rises my ELO and I know my next match will be against something too strong
i didn’t resign. i ALT+F4 in game starts in 1 min queue. i closed my game and had to restart it. and it still added penalty time. i don’t want to play steppe which is not my type of play. i will just get destoryed because i never played it. so do you want me to play maps i don’t know and drop 200 elo.
so you’re angry because your trick of not getting into the match doesn’t work too bad if you want to play a specific map do it against the AI or open a lobby stop complaining also this penalty prevents smurf who alt+f4 to drop in ELO on purpose speaking of that you claim that you’ll drop 200 ELO because of playing steppe see it by the good side you will have even easier matches when you are lower in the ladder and get a map you like
i don’t know what you are even talking, bro. on one side you say its’ prevents smurfing that drop elo on purpose and on the other side you say it’s good to drop 200 elo on unknown maps to get easier games. and you also said that you don’t want to match someone that is too strong. i just wanna play my map, the new map arabian desert. it’s a good map i like it. why punish me?
yes you do I can tell you feel like complaining but are perfectly aware of the reasoning behind the penalty just open a damn lobby to play arabian desert and maybe open a topic asking for someone to join you
no one will join my lobby game. now i got an error and penalty is raised from 6 to 30 mins. fuck it. i play something else
i think you need to stop dodging and rage quitting games. that usually stops the game from giving you a penalty.
are you even playing aoe2 or is this forum your game?
One thing I’ve heard a person claim they did (in AoE4) when they got a map they didn’t like was pick a strategy that ends the game quickly. So, if you get a map you don’t like, you could do something like the Italians TC drop. When it fails (because the strat sucks when you do it with a generic civ), you then move onto your next game.
Dodging (whether through instant resign or alt-F4 or some other means) is rather impolite imo, and goes against the spirit of ranked play.
Thank you, I will try this.
I don’t understand why they keep this mappool and ban system. It is just frustrating. You have 3 bans and your opponent has 3 bans. So both players are stuck playing a map they probably didn’t even want to play.
Now imagine you finally got to your Arabian Desert and the other player just resigns before the game begins.
On the other hand, I somehow understand you can feel aggrieved. I have totally different preferences. I like to try new maps and I only don’t like some, like BF. The game allows me to ban it so I never see it. You only like to play on a single map but the game doesn’t all you to do so. I think the game should allow you to ban all the other maps for the cost that you would have to wait longer.
this guy is a troll look at this post history he has only a few posts and all of them are about disliking the map pool and early resigning
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LOL, you are the TROLL here. you created that account 1 day ago, just to trash talk my opinion. how many forum accounts do you have? that poppy and teutonictanks are probably also yours.
I think map dodging is not nice and i hate it when it happens.
I ban some maps i don’t like and star the one i really do, than i play whatever i get. But others dodging makes my queue longer which i hate. I don’t understand why it must be the 1 map u choose. If you can’t play at least some different maps you wont learn aoe well i think. This game is really about adaptability not just 1 tactic drill. at least for me.
you are also a funny guy. Now imagine this: I select arabian desert. my opponent picks arabian desert. we both get matched with the map we WANT to play. So, how likely is it that one of us will dodge the match? I tell you. ZERO chances.
I get your point, you don’t want to play ONLY one map. True, there are many lovely maps. But people want to pick maps and not get forced to play a map. That is the whole issue with Teamgames. That is the reason why people dodge games.
imagine 6 players in a 3v3 queue. 3 players favor arena, 1 wants arabia, 1 wants a water map and the last one selects michi. how likely is it that this match will actually go ahead without someone dodging? probably under 5%. because you dont get enough bans in team games, people constantly end up on a map they did NOT choose. you cant force players to play a 45 minute game on a map they hate, and timeout bans clearly dont stop them from dodging.
instead of punishing players, the devs should reward them for playing different maps. for example, add specific multiplayer achievements or unique profile icons, like play 50 ranked games over 20 minutes on migration for an achievement, or 100 games on a specific map to unlock a special icon for the loading screen. a lot of people love grinding and collecting stuff like that. that way, players would willingly pick different maps to finish their challenges instead of feeling forced into them.
another big problem is that those 1 hour timeout penalties actually hurt the whole playerbase. when a player gets locked out for an hour, thats one less person in the matchmaking pool, which makes queue times even longer for everyone else. plus, if someone only has an hour or two to play after work and gets hit with a ban, they will just close aoe2 and play something else instead. over time, that shrinks the playerbase permanently.
But currently the game doesn’t allow you to pick a single map only, so there is a big chance your Arabian Desert is not your opponents preference. You know from the beginning a different map can be picked, so you should respect other players that were waiting and not quit the game just because you don’t like the map. It’s not other players fault you can’t pick a single map. And if a map is that big of a deal to you, then simply don’t use quick match find and create/join a lobby.
i totally respect that mindset, and for players like you who enjoy playing everything, the current system works great.
the problem is that a huge part of the playerbase doesnt treat ranked like a tournament where you have to master every map. many people only have time for 1 or 2 games after work and just want to play the map they actually enjoy.
plus, once you reach higher elos like 1600+, the game gets way more competitive because players actually know how to play, have low idle tc time, make fewer mistakes and know how to defend and win. when you grind hard to reach that level on arabia and then suddenly get forced onto a random exotic map you never play, you basically risk losing your hard earned elo just because of the map pool. that is also a big reason why people dodge specific maps.
honestly, the only reason the current system exists is so that players who like niche maps dont have to wait in long queues. instead, the majority of players get forced into maps they didnt want, which just creates dodges and timeouts for everyone.
I think ELO suppose to represent how well you play the game, not how well you play a single map.
