Medierranean Architecture Set is extremely overused

[Hzdrafxx]

@Apocalypso4826 You can say that about anything. If you really look into it, even two apples will look different.

[Hzdrafxx]

@Apocalypso4826 Caucasian Architecture is not very unique. You are lying.

[Grep0sofHeckels]

My response to that is everything @MUTYLATOR5553 said basically and I don’t want to double down too hard on what has already being said , I tend to only visit this forum every few days hence the late responses.

I will say again that you’re not really focusing on what is important here and are unnecessarily dividing us on what we should care about, that being corporate laziness rather than player desires about DLC locations, once again @MUTYLATOR5553 already talked about this quite well already. This is relevant to you, because even if your desired DLC locations become a reality, they will become victim to lazy developmental practices anyways and now we all lose

[Apocalypso4826]

@Hzdrafxx

Caucasian Architecture is not very unique. You are lying.

I have studied the subject more than anyone else on this forum. I am the most qualified to say the architecture is unique. Don’t accuse me of lying.

[RatcicleFan]

@Hzdrafxx are you trying to justify the Mediterranean set being overused? Why would anyone even do that.

[Apocalypso4826]

I think they just want to be right and everyone else to be wrong.

[TommoChocolate]

@RatcicleFan

the Central European set… the monastery is based on a Georgian church

Yeah, this is quite odd. At a push, it looks similar to churches built by the Goths in Italy. Also, the apse is pointing west, which seems pretty unlikely to me.

@RatcicleFan

is the middle eastern set even based on actual Middle Eastern architecture?

I don’t know, I don’t know enough about Middle Eastern architecture to tell!

@RatcicleFan

The East Asian set is supposedly based on a restaurant after all.

If I recall correctly, this was specifically about the roof on the Imperial Age Town Centre, and it wasn’t clear whether it was a joke or not – but I can’t find the post about it now.

@Hzdrafxx

Caucasian architecture is also very similar to the Mediterranean architecture they have been given.

Is it? From what I’ve seen, the classical columns and large windows don’t seem appropriate for Caucasian architecture, and tiled roofs don’t seem that common either (although I realise that medieval buildings often don’t still have their original roofs). The Mediterranean monastery and university in particular look very Italian to me, as well. But I’ll admit I’m far from being an expert, so would be interested to know if I’m wrong.

[Apocalypso4826]

@TommoChocolate

Yeah, this is quite odd. At a push, it looks similar to churches built by the Goths in Italy. Also, the apse is pointing west, which seems pretty unlikely to me.

It looks practically identical to Gelati Monastery if you look.

[KarstHillFort77]

@Szaladon

Considering that we now have a set used by 8 civs, it’s definitely possible that they’d add 2 more for the East Asian one. And with the fan favourite Tibet there… I don’t know, one can dream. Prefer though they’d focus first on the other three you mentioned, just because of the architecture set issue.

Tibet shouldn’t use the current East Asian architecture but instead they should have a new Inner Asian or steppe themed architecture that they share with the Mongols (and potentially the Tanguts as well). Jurchens and Dians (Nanzhao) could use the East Asian architecture.

[Gaudio3342]

@RatcicleFan

is the middle eastern set even based on actual Middle Eastern architecture?

Feudal age fits desert arabian architecture. Castle Age buildings are mostly based on the levantine (Syria, Lebanon, Holy Land) architecture with the battlements of the roof taking inspiration from Persia and the arches in the andalusian style.

@RealMatrim2

This one looks really good, but the style looks like South-Saudi and Yemeni. Not quite representative of the Middle East as a whole. The current set does a better job at that

[SMUM15236]

Yep. And very confusing to use it for Catholic Teutons.

[Apocalypso4826]

Blame the original developers. Not sure what they were thinking.

[LilimTheCupid]

Imagine if we only had the 5 original architectures .

[MUTYLATOR5553]

@Grep0sofHeckels

My response to that is everything @MUTYLATOR5553 said basically and I don’t want to double down too hard on what has already being said , I tend to only visit this forum every few days hence the late responses.

I will say again that you’re not really focusing on what is important here and are unnecessarily dividing us on what we should care about, that being corporate laziness rather than player desires about DLC locations, once again @MUTYLATOR5553 already talked about this quite well already. This is relevant to you, because even if your desired DLC locations become a reality, they will become victim to lazy developmental practices anyways and now we all lose

A great example is the Cossacks game series, where each civ has a unique Architecture - even though the vast majority of civs are European. If you want, each civ, without exception, can have a unique architecture and unit skins - the only obstacle is the corporation, which can limit even the most talented and creative creators.

So the problem is not the European civs but the limited budget.

[Mahazona]

@Apocalypso4826

have studied the subject more than anyone else on this forum. I am the most qualified to say the architecture is unique. Don’t accuse me of lying

Didnt someone prove you wrong on who has which wonder ?

[Apocalypso4826]

@TommoChocolate

Is it? From what I’ve seen, the classical columns and large windows don’t seem appropriate for Caucasian architecture, and tiled roofs don’t seem that common either (although I realise that medieval buildings often don’t still have their original roofs). The Mediterranean monastery and university in particular look very Italian to me, as well. But I’ll admit I’m far from being an expert, so would be interested to know if I’m wrong.

I’m an expert (well, as far as anyone here), and you’re absolutely right. Caucasus architecture is different significantly. It tends to feature conical domes instead of rounded ones, and triangular niches on walls instead of columns. I don’t know the technical terms, but I know what I’m seeing in my head.

[RealMatrim2]

@Gaudio3342

but the style looks like South-Saudi and Yemeni.

Do you think, that the introduction of an “Arabic” civ with this or an inspired architecture set of this, would make sense in a new North African-Near East DLC? I think yes.

However, I think the architecture shown from the Age of Empires 2 HD Mod for the “Saracens” is appropriate. The architecture shown fits well with houses in todays “Israel” and neighboring areas.

[Apocalypso4826]

@Mahazona

Didnt someone prove you wrong on who has which wonder ?

I was misled because the Georgian Wonder looked like an Armenian one. That’s an error anyone can make. It doesn’t mean I suddenly know nothing about the architecture.

[Mahazona]

@Apocalypso4826

I’m an expert (well, as far as anyone here),

You cant claim to be an expert and be the same level as average wiki reading forum user at the same time.

[Apocalypso4826]

My point is that I know the most on the subject out of anyone on the forum.