Minor factions of Pre-Columbian origin

I made a consultation with GTP chat, and I think that muiscas would be a good replacement for the Zapotecs, both on the maps and in the native embassy of the Incas:

"The Incas and the Muiscas did have contact, although it was limited. The Incas, who were a civilization that originated in Peru, expanded their empire northwards, reaching what is now Colombia, but they did not conquer the region of the Muiscas, which was located in central Colombia.

The Muiscas, who were a confederation of cacicazgos, maintained a certain autonomy and defended their independence against the Incas. Although there was some contact and trade between the two groups, there was no Inca conquest or dominion over the Muiscas.

In fact, when the Spanish arrived in Colombia, they found that the Muiscas maintained their own identity and culture, different from that of the Incas. The Muiscas were a society organized into cacicazgos, with a complex political and social structure, and they spoke their own language, Muysccubun.

It’s important to note that, although the Incas did not conquer the Muiscas, there was cultural and commercial influence between the two groups, and archaeological artifacts and remains have been found that suggest an exchange of goods and ideas between them."

"The Muiscas and the Incas did have an alliance at certain times. Although the Incas didn’t conquer the Muiscas, there was a period when the two groups established a political and commercial alliance.

In particular, during the reign of Inca Huayna Capac, who ruled from 1493 to 1527, an alliance was established between the Incas and the Muiscas. This alliance was based on mutual need for trade and defense against neighboring peoples.

The Muiscas, who were experts in gold and emerald production, provided these precious goods to the Incas, who in turn provided military protection and access to their trade networks. This alliance allowed the Muiscas to maintain their independence and autonomy, while the Incas gained access to valuable and strategic resources.

However, it’s important to note that this alliance was not an equal relationship, and the Incas maintained a certain level of political and cultural influence over the Muiscas. Moreover, the alliance didn’t last long, as the arrival of the Spanish in the 16th century brought about conquest and colonization of both territories."

Sources:
“The Incas and the Muiscas: A Study of the Conquest of Colombia” by John V. Murra (1946): This book is a classic in the history of the Spanish conquest of Colombia and explores the contact between the Incas and the Muiscas.

“The Muiscas and the Spanish Conquest” by Juan Friede (1963): This work is a detailed study of the Spanish conquest of Colombia and the role played by the Muiscas in that process. It includes information about the contacts between the Incas and the Muiscas.

“The Cambridge History of the Native Peoples of the Americas” by Frank Salomon and Stuart B. Schwartz (1999): This book is a general history of the indigenous peoples of America and dedicates a chapter to the history of the Incas and the Muiscas in Colombia.

“The Oxford Handbook of Mesoamerican History” by Deborah L. Nichols and Christopher A. Pool (2012): Although this book focuses on the history of Mesoamerica, it also includes information about the contact between the Incas and the Muiscas in Colombia.

“The Muiscas: A Historical Review” by Gonzalo Hernández Rodríguez (2013): This online article provides an overview of the history of the Muiscas, including their contact with the Incas and the Spanish.

It’s important to note that the information about the contact between the Incas and the Muiscas may be limited and fragmented, as many historical records from the time period were destroyed or lost. However, these authors and sources can provide a solid foundation for understanding this period of Colombian history.

Remember to always verify the credibility and accuracy of historical sources, especially when dealing with complex events and processes like the Spanish conquest of America.


"The Muiscas were a politically and economically powerful society in the Andean region of Colombia, and their influence extended through commercial and political networks with other indigenous groups in the region. Although they did not have a direct presence in the Amazon, their influence was felt in the region through the circulation of goods and ideas.

For example, it is known that the Muiscas traded with indigenous groups in the northeastern region of Colombia, such as the Taironas, who were located in the Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta. They also traded with indigenous groups in the Orinoco basin, such as the Pemon and the Piaroa. This trade allowed the Muiscas’ cultural and political influence to extend to the region.

As for the Amazon, the Muiscas did not have a direct influence in the region, as they were not present in the Amazon rainforest. However, their influence was felt in the region through the circulation of goods and ideas with other indigenous groups that were present in the Amazon."

Here are some sources that support the information I provided:

“The Cambridge History of the Native Peoples of the Americas” by Frank Salomon and Stuart B. Schwartz (1999) - This book is a general history of the indigenous peoples of America and dedicates a chapter to the history of the Muiscas in Colombia.

“The Muiscas and the Spanish Conquest” by Juan Friede (1963) - This work is a detailed study of the Spanish conquest of Colombia and the role played by the Muiscas in that process.

“The Tairona: Chiefs of the Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta” by Reichel-Dolmatoff, G. (1953) - This book is an anthropological study of the Tairona ethnicity, which is located in the Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta in Colombia.

“The Indigenous Peoples of the Orinoco Basin” by Fernando Omar Morales (2013) - This article is a study of the indigenous peoples who inhabit the Orinoco basin, including the Pemon and the Piaroa.

“The Muiscas: A Historical Review” by Gonzalo Hernández Rodríguez (2013) - This article is a historical review of the Muiscas and their influence in the Andean region of Colombia.

The Tlaxcalan border militia did, in fact, exist. After the Spanish conquest of Mexico, the Tlaxcaltecas maintained a certain level of autonomy and were granted privileges by the Spanish crown.

One of these privileges was the right to maintain their own border militia, known as the “Milicia de Tlaxcala”, which was responsible for defending the border regions of Tlaxcala against hostile indigenous groups and other external threats. This militia was made up of Tlaxcalteca warriors who were trained and equipped by the Spanish, and they played a significant role in maintaining stability in the region during the colonial period.

The Tlaxcalan border militia was an important institution in the region, and it allowed the Tlaxcaltecas to maintain a level of control over their territory and to participate in the defense of New Spain.


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Your images are AI generated.

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Of course. First time using this tool. You have to be very specific so that it is as coherent as possible.

Well, you failed. And you will fail every time.

I think you don’t understand just how much of a disservice to your point using AI generated images does. You’re not using historical references, you’re using bizarre collages built from databases that have no idea what you’re talking about, you’re reinforcing stereotypes and further distancing yourself from the truth.

Those are not “Tlaxcalan Border Militias”, those are fantasy, a clichĂ© created by an unknowing machine. And trying to convince people they are anything but that is insulting.

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It is up to each person to take it with tweezers. I just thought it would help me explain the concept better. It’s nothing to be so shocked about.

Good point with these minor factions :+1: Game also needs full Mayan faction (in the same scale like Incas or Aztecs) not only a revolutionary option.

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Jungle navigator does what now?

Wooo, well spotted.

Completely forgot to edit that (well-passed it being editable), haha. (impressive that it was liked whilst retaining an air of mystery!)

TLDR,
Basically what I meant to have added before accidently deleting the rest is that the Jungle Navigator ability is basically increased LOS and Movement speed when near to Trees (and Berry Bushes, Mango Groves, Cherry Orchards etc). These particular native tribes were excellent jungle combatants and were incredibly knowledgable (often hired by Spanish and buccaneers) on navigating jungle environments (including the Darien Gap which to this day is pretty much a natural border).

For South America, the Guaicuru and the Shuar could be considered for minor civs.

The Guaicuru were known as good horseman (Cowboys in South America), maintained hegemony over a number of people in the Gran Chaco, and frequently traded with and raided neighboring Spanish (and revolutionary successor) states.

The Shuar lived between the Andes Mountain and the Amazonian Jungles, and were known as fierce warriors with a culture for headhunting. Although to make it PG, it could be referenced as “Shuar Trophy Hunting” (similar to Carib Ceremonial Feast).

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There are many Guaikuru tribes, is a peyorative word given by the Guaraní, similar to “barbarian” of the Greeks
Abipones, Mbaya (formerly Caduweu), Payagua (Paraguayan river pirates), Toba-Qom and Toba-Maskoy, the word “toba” is a descriptive exonym (from guaraní “tova” third person indicative “front of the face” frentones), the Lengua (again exonym word, this time spanish) for the Enlhet and Enxet that are family with the Angaite (exonym guaraní word), Sanapaná and Guaná tribes
But yes, they are for the most part from the Gran Chaco (taller and formidable)
The thing is, not all of them were good at horsemanship, some were better in water (Payagua) others in tracking, hunting and foraging (Lengua), the Mbaya and the Toba-Qom were skilled in the use of horses, and there are others who mixed well in the markets of the emerging countries

Honestly the Shuar are even a Dark Horse candidate for a full fledged civ. They were never truly conquered by the Spanish, their territories technically were never colonized, they kinda just are part of Ecuador nowadays.