[Minor Natives topic] Post here your ideas for every single minor natives so the devs can look at

Age of Empires III: DE III - Discussion
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@ Jonasnee8581
Thank you Jonas!

  1. I think you are absolutely right. I’m editing it right now so it can be much more simple and effective.

  2. About the XP boost, you are also right: it isn’t worth the resources. But do remember that there are cards that can cut the cost drastically (Native Lore removes all coin, African and Asian civs have even better techs). And if someone pulls out this tech it would be worth half of the Spanish civ (+27%xp) in terms of fights (+10% xp). Maya Spearman himself would be worth a single spanish unit. So if it works it will be just roll! That’s why I set the bar a bit higher.

  3. And for the last time: you are right! Holcan alone isn’t worth it, but the issue is Heavy Infantry themselves. That’s why I always add overall effects a “plus” for native units in every tech to promote them and attract players: every time you are buffing something for your civ, you are also boosting that native unit too.

ZAPOTEC
I couldn’t find too much unique things to add them as technologies that have not been added so far. I’ve added references to their Cult of Dead and Mesoamerican civs overall.

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https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Zapotec

NEW TECHS

  • Zapotec Logosyllabic System (150w, 100c): The old Zapotecs’ hieroglyphs allows training at buildings.
    Effect: Zapotec Lightning warrior can be trained at your military buildings. Melee heavy infantry can be trained at Zapotec sites.
    Why: Filler tech. I couldn’t think of anything for it but If I can figure it out something interesting I’ll add here.

Lore: The Zapotec hieroglyphs record the rise and fall of the Zapotec state between 500 B.C. to A.D. 700. This system is considered the precursor of the later developed by the Mayas, Mixtecs and Aztecs and spread widely in southwestern Mesoamerica. Famsi.org;

  • Zapotec Obsidian Artifacts (150f, 150c): The Zapotec treasures can help you uncover more misteries.
    Effect: Native warriors, Explorer and settlers get +1.0x multiplier vs treasure guardians and every treasure claimed also awards 50c. Zapotec Lightning Warrior gets +0.25 speed.
    Why: At first I would add a military improvement but Zapotec ended up having too many. I have no idea what to add here. Filler.

Lore: Obsidian was a highly integrated part of daily and ritual life, and its widespread and varied use may be a significant contributor to Mesoamerica’s lack of metallurgy. Field Musem- Zapotec archaeology; Youtube- Mesoamerican weaponry; Worldhistory

  • Zapotec Heritage Urn (200w, 250c): Zapotec Cult of dead will grant new warriors for each one fallen so far. Can be used two times: second time has double the cost.
    Effect 1: Ships 1 Zapotec Lightning Warrior for each 2 you have lost so far (up to a maximum of 15).
    Effect 2: Ships 1 Zapotec Lightning Warrior for each 4 you have lost so far (up to a maximum of 15). Boost the HP and hand damage of all ZLW by 10%.
    Why: Okay. I’ve copied this one from the newest cards of their cousin: the Aztec. I think it fits them better than the Aztec but I didn’t want to throw away the tech below. They are quite inferior to JPK and SK, so this tech also boosts their stats.

  • Zapotec Ancestry Honor (250w, 250c): The Zapotec afterlife cults present in their culture, boosts the damage of Zapotec Lightning Warrior.
    Effect: Boost the hand damage of all current Zapotec Lightning Warrior by +25% damage for 5s, for each of their units who are killed while they are alive. Up to +50% damage and 10s. Adds -0.5x multiplier (damage penalty) vs cavalry.
    Why: .That is similar to the Maya tech. Giving 50% damage at once is too much but making it cheap and temporary balances it out. This is the specific tech of Zapotec Lightning Warrior.

Lore: The Zapotec worshiped their ancestors and, believing in a paradisaical underworld, stressed the cult of the dead. The afterlife cults inherited from these beliefs are symbolically celebrated on the Dia de los Muertos - Day of the Dead. The representations of skeletons, humans or animals and figurines of the goddess Micanteculi (the Zapotec Goddess of death) are found commonly during the event. Easyvoyage; Infoplease

SUGGESTION FOR CURRENT TECHS

Zapotec Food of the Gods: Horrible. They have the same tech as the Maya but it cost 50% more (and Maya’s isn’t even that good :roll_eyes:). Considering thy were an agricultural people the tech could boost arms more than the toher sources: as 15% or 20%
Zapotec Cult of the Dead: It used to be fair but hand infantry is so bad nowadays. Reducing the cost or buffing it a bit should make the use worth it.
Zapotec Cloud People: Sounds fair. Not great and not bad.

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