Why do the Mongols have the weakest heavy cavalry in the game? Keshiks lose to any knight. Being a cavalry civilization, its horse units should be stronger. Look at the Byzantines, Zhu xi, their cavalry is devastating. More health, more damage, more armor. For the same price as other cavalries in the game. Keshik is cheaper, yes, but it’s not worth the investment. Archers benefit more from the Khan’s skills etc than his cavalry. Something is not right… Maybe if Keshiks and Mangudais had more ranged armor, since they are invaders. It’s very frustrating when your “strong” is your weakness.
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What should happen at some point is that the Keshik should have its HP increased.
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Mongols practically pioneered the cavalry mace - they should get a tech similar to HRE maa to deal bonus anti heavy damage.
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Indeed!
I was suggesting to the devs to remove the double production of infantry (both ranged and melee) units and advanced infantry technology to be removed.
Also, now you stated a great point about the Khan’s skills!
Since the Mongol strength is cavalry, it needs to focus its cavalry. Therefore, the Khan’s skills must be something that improves cavalry units. That way the cavalry units will benefit instead of the infantry units - especially spearmen, crossbowmen, and archers.
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Rework Mongols so their infantry is weaker and relied on Cavalry more
make them a Cav Civ, not an infantry civ atm
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I think they should be cav focused in a unique way, they shouldn’t have the best heavy cavalry, instead they should have the best light cavalry and the best mounted archers.
Mongols should be a hit and run cav civ, highly micro intensive, hard to play but rewarding in the hands of a skilled player.
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The Keshik still needs an HP boost, however. Perhaps, the HP can be increased from 145/175/210 to 175/205/240.
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Yeah if I think about sipahi having 155 hp in feudal it’s strange. Also Mongol feels tough against dehli. Ghazi beat keshiks in res and can easier be massed also u can’t run awys from them, with tov dehli has better spears and better archers. Very hard matchup. It least for me. I feel like there is no advantage I have against them.
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I think that the keshik could use a buff maybe a movement speed increase after charging and a reduced cooldown for a charge. Mongols were known to charge and retreat repeatedly in battles.
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I’ll propose that the khans attack speed buff also apllies to the cavalry.
Add +1 piercing armor to the keshik and buff the speed of all cavalry by 5%.
A technology that gives the mangudai buff damage against armor units, but reduce the piercing armor -1 of the mangudai.